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Reputation (rep) Bar

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Aznhunt, May 31, 2017.

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  1. Aznhunt

    Aznhunt Warlock Of Destroyers

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    Yes.. im stupid.. and i don't see how this is going to happen..

    So iv'e seen alot of people attacking guards / warrior NPC or citizen that is in the local city
    Idk why.. i think they i bored and don't know what quest to do cuz they all amazing (tbh i do it too)
    So can you make it like.. if you kill guards or citizen your reputation goes down.. if you attack monsters they increase.. but it has to be 50 Kill monsters = a few good rep points.. if your rep is bad.. you can't sell items.. buy stuff... and identify item.. instead you how to go to Demtown (Demon Town).. lvl 30.. there you can trade and all that good stuff.. but the NPC has to look like a fire creature or something..

    I don't see this happening cuz all the bars have been taken (Xp=Lvlbar, Food=Manabar, Health=Well it's health

    Btw: Demontown requires a 1LE Pass everytime you get to bad rep
     
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  2. (Meric)

    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Hmm...

    Interesting idea..

    Actually sorta interesting...

    Few problems:

    1.Noobs are always gonna attack villigars for no reason, and they mostly skip text.. so maybe a pop up warning when your rep is going down low
    2. If your above level 30, What will happen?
    3.How does this fit lore wise?

    Is demon town any different at all?
    Just a cosmetic?

    If so I feel its a bit... unfinished suggestion, but... why not
     
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  3. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    pretty sure it has already been suggested under the name of karma a few times
     
  4. Trash

    Trash Add earth dagger VIP

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    Maybe the bossbar?
     
  5. RojoM

    RojoM Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Hmm, maybe the bossbar can be a rep meter. And if your rep goes too low, it starts warning you. If you persist in lowering rep, then town guards begin to target and attack you, identifiers and buyers and merchants refuse to deal with you, etc. Rep is reset on death, and each province has a separate rep meter. However, when you have a low rep, you are allowed to enter a "demon town" where you won't be attacked. Each province could have a special merchant in that town which sells some special set armor (demon armor?) and item identifiers there have a higher chance of rolling good IDs but cost 10x more.

    Oh, and it would be extremely hard to keep low rep (maybe it has a natural regen rate). It would require killing lots of villagers and barely touching monsters. That way it's hard for noobs to mess up and it's also hard to actually enter the demon town.
     
  6. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    There is an obscene amount of "..." in this thread.

    As for the subject itself; good idea, bad suggestion.
    This is a boring approach to the idea. Why have 1 side clearly be better than the other? Each side of the "reputation" should have pros and cons, like items you can only get by being evil or towns you can only visit by being good.
    This cuts off the player from almost every city. One town in 3 provinces and an ocean is not enough. Besides, needing to be level 30 is an unnecessary restriction. Best to remove the idea completely. Think of it like this; merchants have no reason to be afraid of evildoers logically; unless they're actually a monster (which the player isn't), then they'd still need to buy things.
    Not an issue, custom bars can be made, like the sprint bar.

    Overall, it needs more detail.
     
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  7. bluepenguin1002

    bluepenguin1002 Waddling penguin

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    what if your below lvl 30?
    then what
     
  8. Aznhunt

    Aznhunt Warlock Of Destroyers

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    Demon town is a place where you can buy stuff from the demon merchant when ur rep is low.. but if u attack the demon villagers.. you get back to normal rep overtime.. or u can just kill monsters.. and demon town is made out of Obsidian, Netherrack, Lavafalls, etc.. if you want to be evil.. just make your rep go down.. and be evil.. a few demon cities will be placed across Gavel-Wynn-Corkus
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    That's a plus for my suggestion
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    If your below lvl. 30 your the monsters around there will be more dangerous.. just like every other towns
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    Btw.. i hear/see people attack villager in the backround since my mc is open.. so this idea needs to be an essential.. cause nothing is happening
    Villagers in my mc backround is has died like 600 Times.. so this needs to happen lol.. RojoM's plus idea needs to be an essential to my idea as well.. since the Rep bar regens overtime.. Demontown sells.. +100-200 Health armor.. +Fire Defense.. and if your repbar is high.. the Demontown guards will start to target you.. and Merchants from demontown will refuse to trade
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    Go to hell.. you didn't even read what i said.. i said if you CAN IDENTIFY SELL AND BUY items from DEMONTOWN.. and the REPBAR HAS REGEN OVERTIME.. Demontown is BETTER AND SELLS OBSIDIAN ARMOR...
     
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  9. (Meric)

    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Still didnt answer my question...

    Well you sorta do...

    So basically demon town has custom mobs.

    and you can rapidly go back and forth by killing villgiars..

    seems a bit.. too op to go back and forth.

    also this makes demon town look like a good thing, and promotes mass murderin of villigars
     
  10. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    I read everything you said. Telling me to go to hell because I've given some criticism isn't going to do shit. It's funny, really; you don't seem to have properly read what I wrote the first time. Hell, you didn't even quote some of what I said.
     
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  11. Aznhunt

    Aznhunt Warlock Of Destroyers

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    You said iv'e didn't give enough detail when people keeps giving me detail that i can add to expand the suggestion.. and iv'e given massive details that u didn't even expect it to be a detail bruh
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    Yea... ik that.. but if you murder villagers.. you can't continue foward your lvl for example to gavel.. massive cities and some of it include quests.. wynn too.. The problem is while DemonTown is amazing.. the demon town cities will be very small and just a few.. and villgers health should be expanded to 10.500

    New Suggestion: Demontown requires a 1LE Pass everytime you get to bad rep.. since demontown sells OP Item..
     
  12. Enhanced_Human

    Enhanced_Human Natural Born World-Shaker

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    Alrighty, so if we're taking your suggestion and adding RojoM's stuff...
    Let's see what else there is

    -Where's Demtown?
    -How big is it?
    -What do merchants say when they refuse you service?
    -How low or high does your rep have to be when doing things?
    -How much rep does each mob give you?
    -Do different mobs give you different rep?
    -Do bosses give you more rep?
    -How much of a higher chance is there for good ID's?

    Oh and also...

    -How does this benefit higher levels? After all, I don't see many level thirties going out of their way to kill citizens.

    -You've barely even specified on what these "OP items" are.


    And, for everyone's sake, drop the ..'s.
    It makes you seems really nervous.
     
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  13. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    You had far less detail than I expected, which is saying something. Other people giving you ideas is not you adding detail. If you want to change the actual suggestion to add detail, then edit the thread with it. The only massive thing here is your ego.

    You're still missing tons of shit.
    1. What does the bar look like?
    2. Where does the bar go?
    3. In what ways can you interact with the bar?
    4. How will the bar be made?
    5. How much good/bad reputation do you gain per mob?
    6. Does the amount of rep gained change depending on mob?
    7. What do the NPCs say when you have a bad rep instead of selling things/providing services to you?
    8. Where is Demontown?
    9. What does Demontown look like?
    10. How do you get to Demontown?
    11. Why is it called Demontown?
    12. Demons already exist and are aggressive mobs. Are these some other kind of Demon?
    13. Are there any differences between Demontown NPCs and normal town NPCs? (e.g items sold, identifying prices, potions sold, prices for bought items)
    14. Are there quests only accessible in Demontown?
    15. Can you access Demontown with a good rep?
    16. Why is Demontown level 30?
    17. Why does Demontown exist?
    18. Why did you think Demontown was a good idea?
    19. What do the NPCs in Demontown actually look like?
    20. Does Demontown have a scroll?
    21. Will players really have to traverse entire provinces just to access an item buyer, identifier, etc.? Why?
    22. Is Demontown really fitting, seeing as how literally all other demons and demon-like creatures in Wynn are evil?
    23. Why does being evil only have downsides?
    24. Why does being good have no upsides?
    25. How does this actually affect the content of the game?
    26. Why don't you use spellcheck?
    27. Could having good/bad rep unlock specific quests, item, areas, etc.?
    28. Are there actually any effects whatsoever of rep past ridiculously denying access to vital features for no good reason?
    29. What are the pros and cons of this suggestion?
    30. How does this add to the game?
    I could probably find more, but here's a short list to start you off.
     
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  14. Enhanced_Human

    Enhanced_Human Natural Born World-Shaker

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    Okay, that's just mean.
     
  15. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Really, most people on the internet should use spellcheck, myself included. But especially if you know your spelling isn't the best. All bad spelling does is create miscommunication.

    In the words of m2k, it's not optimal.
     
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    Enhanced_Human Natural Born World-Shaker

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    This is true, but maybe don't put it in the section of berating questions to cap it off at thirty.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Fair enough. I'm not here to judge him, after all, just his suggestion. It does help a lot to be able to fully understand a suggestion when critiquing it, but you're right.
     
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    RojoM Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I gotta say, as much as I support your idea and see a lot of things that could be expanded on, there's no need to be so reactive to criticism mate...
     
  19. llllllllllllll

    llllllllllllll Famous Adventurer

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    try detail in the op for a start
     
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    31. Are there quests you can only start with good rep?
    32. Are there quests you can only start with bad rep?
    33. Is there hostile mobs in Demontown?
    34. What are the stats of the mobs?
    35. How big is Demontown?
    36. Why do you need 1LE to go to Demontown?
    37. Is there another type of currency in Demontown?
    38. Do quests affect your rep at all?
    39. If quests do affect your rep, which quests give you rep, and which remove rep?
    40. How much is "bad rep"?
    41. What does Demontown look like? What kind of palette should builders use while building it?
    42. What the hell is obsidian armor?
    43. If it's only around a level 30 range, how has Gavel/Wynn not dismantled it yet?
    44. What levels are "obsidian armor" and anything else Demontown sells?
    45. If you could get an actual player skin for the demons there or something, that would be helpful.
    46. Are the NPCs there generally aggressive or passive?
    47. Does the amount of rep affect NPC dialogue, and if so, how?
    48. How much is "good rep"?
    49. Are there guards?
    50. Are there citizens?
    51. Are the citizens neutral, passive, or aggresive?
    52. Can you go into Demontown if you have "good rep"?
    53. How would the existence of Demontown affect already existing towns and provinces?
    54. Do other towns acknowledge the existence of Demontown?
    55. How does Demontown fit into the lore?
    56. Are there mobs near Demontown?
    57. If Demontown stretches farther than just the town, what is the terrain like?
    58. Does rep regenerate overnight? How often do you get it?
    59. How does rep relate to soul points?
    60. Is there a max amount of rep?
     
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