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Expert Mode

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Locky1110, May 28, 2017.

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Should they add this?

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  2. Yes but maybe if you change this (+1, comment why)

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  3. Maybe not but maybe if you change this i will say yes (+0, Comment why)

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  1. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    So basically heres how dis works
    Once you have a level 100 class (or lvl 101) AND have completed all the quests, you get 1 extra class slot at the bottom of the classes with a wither skull on it. (if more quests are added, you don't have to do them to continue expert mode, but in expert mode you can't do that quest unless it has been completed on that class, as some quests wont make sense. Also it always will be unlocked at lvl 100 even if theres more levels)
    If you click the skull, you can select a class, which will be your expert mode class
    When you play in expert mode, you can either go to a normal world (however you cannot gain xp or do quests) or you can go to a special Expert world (it will be mostly the same, but with MINOR differences to make it slightly harder and for the quests to work), where you CAN get xp and do quests, or else this wont work.
    In expert mode, most enemies have more health (maybe twice as much health) and do more damage (twice as much damage possibly). Also most quests (mainly fighting quests and boss quests) are changed to have a different way to complete it and better rewards that are fairly powerful for their level
    Now your probably wondering why would i want this. Well theres op rewards, and most of the quests are different, making a whole new experience.
    Here's an example of a changed quest idea

    Maltics well:
    When you enter the well, instead the witch casts a spell which teleports you to a large room. The witch has many spells and can easily kill someone unprepared. When you kill it, it instead drops a which hat. When you give it back to the guy (forgot his name lol), he will give it to you (and the maltic letter) with great stats. It would be a great helmet for its level.

    I'm not gonna list all the expert changes, but i'm gonna list 2 more of them
    Tower of Ascension
    Basically he says welcome back to the tower (you had to have a lvl 100 and complete the quest so it makes sense) and says he prepared a new challenge for people like you. So then he takes you to the back of the tower and shows you an elevator. You have to take it to go underground into the challenge. If you need to continue the quest you can ride the elevator again if you need to. The tower is instead going down instead of up as you know its underground. It has completely different enemies that are much harder to defeat. Completing the quests grants you access to the Master's Armor. (better version of Champions armor)

    The Qira Hive
    Qira and Yansur welcome you back to the hive and tells you Qira has made new challengers to attempt to defeat you after you beating qira. In the center of the rooms where you normally go theres a pit called The Pit of Death where if you jump in you instead of fighting divisions, you fight waves of enemies. there will be 51 waves, which are elemental based, and every 5 waves theres a boss. After the boss wave, you can wait a bit and get prepared for the next waves (theres a bank and potion merchants). Each wave lasts for 30 seconds, and if you don't kill all the mobs, you have to deal with the mobs next wave (if the 5th wave ends and there still there, they will reappear next wave with full health) . If they arent killed after 5 waves, they become enranged and will deal 4 times as much damage and be faster. The final boss is Qira, but she is much more powerful and has much more spells (like instead of single wither skulls she has a burst shot) Beating this challenge will grant a Legendary Voucher, where you can obtain one of four very special weapons. The bow can release a huge storm of arrows. Each arrow doesnt do as much damage as the rest of the weapons, but BOY its fast. The wand shots a burst of wither skulls, similar to qira. The spear lets you create a row of wither skulls (the dont move but it increases the range of the spear and they do a heck ton of damage), and the Dagger can be thrown (its infinite) and does tons of damage.



    Extra Debuffs
    Basically you get a debuff and chat message for preforming certain actions.
    Messages and debuffs:
    You feel weaker as you fight... Weakness: Occurs when you fight with melee for too long and dont use ANY damage spells

    Your abilities weaken as you fight: Spell Weakness: Occurs when your mana counter gets to extremly high levels (around 15 mana per spell) or your mana is low for a while (spamming tons of spells)

    You feel exhausted: Slowness: Running for too long (keeping your sprint bar extremly low)

    You feel strange about this area: Nausea: Certain areas give you nausea
    You feel strange about this area: Poison: Some other areas give you poison


    Notes:
    You can't use a normal bank on an expert class and vice versa, expert classes get their own bank.
    The elevator in ToA is locked in normal mode
    Since you can bring expert mode classes to normal worlds, all expert exclusive items are untradable and cannot be used on normal classes

    So uh yeah thats my idea, i hope its added lol
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    seems interesting, but a ton of work on the gms, so id say not right now.
     
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  3. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    bumperino

    maybe it can come out when fruma comes out or something
     
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    DrCrack Not an adventurer

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    Making a WHOLE NEW WORLD just for players who have no life?(lvl101)
    Nonononono leave the builders alone and let them continue expanding Wynn...
    Oh, and it's not just making a whole new world, it's making a whole new attacking system too....
    And items... And everything...
     
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    Trash Add earth dagger VIP

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    i dont think thats how it works...
     
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  6. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    all they have to do is make minor changes to the world
    (they can just make a copy of the world, and add the changes)
    I never said an entire whole new world
    What do u mean by attacking system?
    Its not THAT much items
    its just the amount of items from quests...
    Also said for lvl 100s, not 101s
    Are you fulling understanding the suggestion
     
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    DrCrack Not an adventurer

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    Well.
    You didn't state how the expert world will look like
    And if I understand your suggestion, did you mean revamping most/every quests in the world?
    And by attacking system I mean your "Extra Debuff" suggestion, which affects the way you fight...
    Can you add as much details as you can into your suggestion?

    P.S. And please keep calm, I was half joking when I was typing that, because I didn't bother finding the flaws too seriously :P I don't want to start a war
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    I'm with you on this one
     
  9. llllllllllllll

    llllllllllllll Famous Adventurer

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    WE CAN'T FUND A WHOLE NEW WORLD
     
  10. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    A whole new world wouldn't work. It already took them like 3-5 months for a big island in the ocean.

    Also how would this work with lore.
     
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    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    Or Just make fruma lv100-lv150
     
  12. supercooldude122

    supercooldude122 Paper made by hand is crap; it's expensive. VIP+

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    This will add a lot of replayability to the server, but if they are going to add this, make sure it only gets added when they are no longer adding new lands and quests and raising the level cap. Right now it makes no sense because word of a Lv. 150 level cap and Fruma suggest that the devs aren't slowing down anytime soon (I wonder how far they'll go... will they make the game similar to Maplestory in the sense that Wynncraft will have an oversized world and ridiculous 250 level cap?)
     
  13. Danielxrv

    Danielxrv Travelled Adventurer VIP

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    I don't really see this as being a good idea to be honest, would be interesting for sure but I know personally I wouldn't enjoy it
     
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    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    I mean i said it will always be lvl 100
    cause lvl 100 is like a milestone
    do u want me to change anything? :I
    I never said they would make an entire new world
    just changes to the current world
    well there would be minor changes to the map for stuff like quests, but nothing major
    just changing a bit of most quests, mainly the ones with bosses
    i bet i could make the system without it (well i need the sprint bar and stuff)
    The sprint bar could create a counter that when it gets too high it gives you slowness
    The spell counter could detect when you used too many spells (you know when you spam spells the amount of mana needed increases by 1)
    Like i said, it will make minor changes to quests (also in the post i mainly said just the quests with bosses and fighting, or anything they can easily do to make it a bit harder)
    k i made some replies, just look up on what i wrote
    :I never said a whole new world

    @LovroiLaki you gonna suggest anything or wut

    Ill write down a clarification on the expert mode world
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    That would break the lore though.. The point of the quests are to add story to the game; changing quests has a HUGE impact on the story unless i ts just gameplay mechanics like higher stat bosses.
     
  16. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    like what do you mean by the story, because i don't really seeing it impacting the lore/story...
    i just said its some minor changes to mainly fighting quests, like the mobs are alot stronger
    i gave some examples, too
     
  17. supercooldude122

    supercooldude122 Paper made by hand is crap; it's expensive. VIP+

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    Well, so is level 50, level 75, level 150, level 250.... I wasn't objecting to your idea, I'm just saying that its implementation should be put on hold until they stop adding new things to the world. Otherwise its implementation would not make sense.
     
  18. socko32

    socko32 Huh. VIP+

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    you are saying to clone, edit and recode 119 (and growing quests) ,three (maybe four by the time this gets added- which i doubt it will),add a bunch of new items, more dialogue which is a chore to type and would take away from actual developments to the game AND multiple very code heavy bosses?? I (and probably a lot of other people) would prefer if things that actually NEED fixing or improving, like the 90-95 quest gap, guild wars and adding more stuff to Corkus, were worked on instead. So i'm sorry to rain on your parade, but i really don't feel like this will get added.

    ALSO SIDE NOTE;
    you know they are working on a new landmass to the right of wynn, don't you?
    The team would probably focus on coding and building that area before they think of revamping the entire ingame world.
    Also if all the level 100's are away it would slow trade probably maybe probably and the people who rely on help from their level 100 friends to become, y'know, lvl 100 won't have that help. sooo then the growth of players slows too, making the game more of a chore for people. which is bad. grinding is already enough of a problem.

    That's just my thoughts on this topic - I would support this being added, just not currently. Sorry to enlarge this wall of text, but i'm trawling forums like the cretin I am just to disagree with people.
     
  19. Ezohn

    Ezohn You are now manually breathing and maybe yawning.

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    Nunununununu.... You see, when fighting Qira, or a wybel, this becomes a tad bit unfair. Doubling anything seems quite extreme, especially if you have no friends and you want to solo.

    These would be good boss abilities, but no unconsiousdasi, You see, there is a fine chance that no1 will ever find you. If you have no frineds you might even have to make a forum post. People walking by can be mean and drag enemies on to you.

    Swell idea
     
  20. Locky1110

    Locky1110 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    yes i know about the land mass cough dern cough
    maybe they can add it after the main provinces (dern and fruma) have been added, because theres really not a whole lot of extra content to add, unless they decide more provinces...
    qira has changed
    fine ill get rid of unconscious
     
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