Let's Fix Elemental Defense - 20 Supporters - Fixed Formula

So as some of you might know, elemental defense is complete bs. To make this short and not a gigantic thread, this is how the damage formula works.

(base damage roll x skillpoint boost x ids (?) x powder boost (?) - elemental defenses) x attack multiplier x spell multiplier.

This means that things like Fatal, which have low base damage but very high attack multipliers, deal 0 damage to elemental tanks. You only need 500 thunder defense and you are COMPLETELY IMMUNE to a MYTHIC THUNDER WAND. If you wanna withstand the courage you need 1500 thunder defense, which is still not a lot considering fatal does like 60k meteors with courage on. This also makes very slow and super slow items op, as their attack multiplier should lower there output but first the elemental defense is applied, thats why alkatraz is so hilariously overpowered.

Here is how I think it should be.

(base damage roll x attack multiplier x powder damage boosts x ids - elemental defense) x spell multiplier.

It's a very simple change, it doesn't make mage op by also adding the spell mutliplier first (meteor does x4 the damage, which would make mage immune to elemental defense which would be awesome for mage mains like myself but not very fair), it just adds the attack multiplier. This would mean it would be, in Fatals case for example, an average damage roll would do 250 x 3.2 = ~800 damage. This would be much more balanced, and would also mean Alkatraz would have a base damage roll of 1000 instead of 2000. This would still make alka a great way to pierce earth defense, but not make it completely immune.

Tl:Dr: Add the attack multiplier before applying elemental defense please and thank you.

Thank you for reading, sorry for the wall of text! Tell me what you think :D

 

Earth defense still sucks, just saying

 

True, but still half the damage as before right?

 

nope, 12k->10k(reduced) something only, half?

 

super slow attack speed should -about- half its base damage right?

 

I hope so

 

Should be added imo

 

fix title: let's fix wynncraft

 

plus juan for this

 

This deserves a bump

 

I don't think elemental def is broken, tanky builds most of the time haves a lot of limitations...

 

So you think weapons with high attack speed are supposed to do 0 damage?

 

I hope the ID Boost is actually added before Ele. Def. subtracts...

 

I support anything that fixes/nerfs/rebalances elemental defense or agility. With elemental defense and agility, being any form of elemental assassin gets 1000% times harder because you can run out to try to attack say a mage, but if they're a tree mage/fatal combo mage, they can take 0 dmg, ice snake you as you go to vanish, meteor you, than spam you with ice snake.

 

I believe it works like this.
I am neutral on this idea because I like how it works now, but it is too strong at the moment. I would be more favorable if only powder was to take effect before element defense and DPS stayed on the outside.

 

I don't see how that is different from my thing, I also got it from Motoki :D

 

+1, this also unfairly punishes players for using builds with low base and high multipliers in boss fights.

 

Along with this, how about we fix the compass so that it's not a lying pile of assholes when it comes elemental defense.