The Price Of Powders And Horses ? New Prices ? Reasonable And Agreeable ?

Hello everyone and welcome to my thread!
the point of this thread is to develop a new , more reasonable price for powders , keys , horses and etc.

Powders
So first i would like to talk about powders , the supply and demand of them.
Also what would be good prices for them. So first off lets talk about the supply , currently theres about 15-20 people i have ecounter and know with atleast 150 to 240 + tier 4s.
Some with 500 and even 1000 plus powders. Selling these for high prices and the normal price for powders would make people corruptly rich and affect the economy greatly in a bad way. Now to talk about demand , there is a large demand for powders , yes indeed however can you say its larger than the supply and should go for higher or the current normal price still ? In my opinion i would disagree because if people are having 100 to 1000 powders , like alot of people , this would just be madness. The supply has to be atleast x2 or x3 the amount of demand , due to this i have concluded with a powder price drop.
I have concluded with these prices , remember the next tier will have a slightly higher price then doing x4 the price of the one before due to the fee by powder merchants and rarity.
Tier 6 : 8.5 liquid emeralds​

tier 5: 2.1 liquid emeralds​

tier 4: 30 emerald blocks​

tier 3: 7.5 emerald blocks​

tier 2: 2.1 emerald blocks​

tier 1: 28 emeralds

Note: Anything decent to greatly above these prices or below , in my opinion will be considered overpriced and underpriced which shouldn't be sold for. The price will possibly drop still or increase slightly. The price will always vary and change.


Horses
So , lets talk about horses , yes horses not donkeys or i would be saying asses.
So 1/10 brown horses are 24 eb. it takes 2 brown horses to get a black horse. A black horse is 2-3 le currently. People can be lucky and unlucky. However there is in between , people mostly have decent-lucky breeds. Such as people obtaining chestnut for 4-6 le or getting a white horse by spending 20-35 le. If a majority was able to do this , yes there is a decent amount of people who have succeeded.
Why is the prices like x2 or even x3 the price? Well its because the luck. However alot of horses do come from people duping and selling which corrupts the economy and for the horse prices to remain same and duping going on , it isn't okay. Also people get good outcome horse breedings not luckiest but not worst and can sell for more , alot more. A chestnut is said to vary for 15-22 le by market agreement. However people do not follow this as they do not know or just take advantage of others. Too much overpriced and underpriced horse selling has been going on which is bad. i would like horses to be a decent-good price where you can still make decent profit if you are lucky but not godly profit guys. We don't want people making stacks and stacks of le easily and buyout everything ? do we ? My idea and opinion of the worth of horses are. There is a low supply and low demand due to ws builds replacing horses. @Nyam for this info as i havent thought about this.
Brown Horse : 1/10 = 24 eb , 5/10 = 28 eb , 10/10 32 eb​

Black Horse: 1/20 = 48 eb , 10/20 = 1.2 le , 20/20 = 1.5 le​

My Beloved Betty is a Chestnut :) -> Chestnut Horse: 1/30 = 15 le , 15/30 = 17 le , 30/30 = 20 le​

White horse: 1/40 = 70 le , 20/40 = 80 le 40/40 = 95 le

Note: This is just my opinion and was a requested thing by a majority of players.
I believe this would fix some things up atleast with the economy. This is just a price for current day. The price may vary , increase or decrease.
ALSO , one important thing , the price of white horse has dropped due to ws builds replacing them.
@Yuno F Gasai , dont get me wrong , the math for your calculation is great and the math is accurate , but remember demand and supply also ws builds replacing them now. Also economy is corrupted by sneaky dupers. Also 1 calculation doesn't mean its official its the main price to everyone who seems to think this.
We all have opinions and this thread is to negotiate a normal / agreed price but instead of doing this people criticize and do not read fully or come up with a price and show some background.








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Powders: Originally 16 LE for a T6, but due to inflation the price has dropped to 8. The community has generally agreed that this is a good price and will most likely not change.

Horses: @Yuno F Gasai take it away

 

Where do I even begin... On average, horses are already much cheaper than what they should be selling for. On average, a white takes about 120 Le to breed. You talk about people who can get lucky and make stacks upon stacks just for breeding whites in 20-35 Le, but do you even take the time to consider how many others who have burned stacks as well and get no white horses in return?

Overall, I don't even think you need to set a price on powders and horses. We're an economy. Items will change in price according to supply and demand. And clearly, powders have obviously dropped tremendously due to died down craze for them.

 

Well , people dupe horses and powders. Powders have x2 - x3 more supply then demand. People sell overpriced and underpriced. Majority people would disagree on my post immediately just for their own benefits in making le. Not saying you are one of them but just saying. You do got a good point. Also horses arent cheaper than what they should be selling. A white can take 120 le to breed if you aren't doing great. But alot of people after 50 - 1 stack 1/2 manage to obtain. Even 30 le. If good amount of people are able to do such compared those suffering heavy losses. The people who suffer can redeem much and the majority can just make crazy amounts of le. Also this is just for a set price/normal price. Also this is an opinion. I would like people to do some criticism and show some proof behind their thought. You definetly have a great point my friend.
I do agree but i disagree as well. I will have to think about what you say but my biggest concern is powders atm.

 

Yeah sure make Tier 2 cost less
I'll buy a few billion of those and make a lot of profit

Seriously powder prices are alright as is
Your horse suggestions are a no-no
Everything besides White horses are fine, and those should cost more as it takes ~128le or so to breed one, but they sell for much less than that, normally only 80-90le

 

Well do you understand people do not know any shit about the economy , market price and sell so overpriced or underpriced and people buy. This will just straight up make people rich and rich by profitting off like this *Scam*. Also i have an idea of new way to breed which would be more effective and better.

 

from my poll ((69voters and more steadily) no joke, actually 69)
t6 powders should average 9.5le.

I feel that 10le is a more reasonable price, however, since it makes the math a lil bit easier as well.

 

16 le .... that would make tier 5 worth like 4 le when its 2-3 right now and it was 16 le at one point before. Also you need to understand duping is a fucken thing now and theres alot of incidents and staff havent reached all.

 

Here's proof:
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/horses-breeding-prices.90224/

Thank @Yuno F Gasai for all of the math calculations. So yeah, white horses are already really cheap as they are. You do point out that people do breed whites with 20-30 Le. Which does happen. But realize that with equal chance, it happens that people take 2-3 stacks for 1 white horse. It's all luck, there's not much you can do about it. It's like mythics. Someone who plays only for a month and gets a mythic drop can make 8 stacks+. While others have been playing since Gavel (or before even) and still don't even get one.

And yeah, the set prices you have on powders are generally the price nowadays anyways, so I agree on that.

 

I said i understood , i just luv how people do not pay attention to the comments above and keep repeating the same stuff <--- obviously not annoying. Also well if this is what you agree to , dont yell at me when dupers sell this shit at high prices and rule economy. Ive seen dupers that are smart and wont get caught for months or just never.

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Also ik this isnt something risking or anyone will do , but for me to believe such prices i would like someone breeding white horses 3-5 times and average it same goes for black and chestnut. Then ill be 100% satisfied , one try eh luck , chance , whatever. several times yeah i got it !
For other games and stuff to get a good legit chance and idea something needs to be tested several several times and averaged out but here experimenting with white horses is a pain and can lose alot of le so well rip. Im not against these prices or calculations of others but just eh.
ALSO THIS IS A THREAD FOR A NEGOTIABLE MARKET PRICE. I FUCKEN HATE HOW EVERYONE GOT WRONG IDEA AND KEEP CRITICIZING SAME SHIT INSTEAD OF POSSIBLY READING ALL OF IT AND GETTING WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY.
sorry for caps , just frustration. Also i will make a poll for prices for white horse and average like that i guess. I got this idea from @orange0401 from his powder poll.

NOTE: PLEASE READ THIS AND NOT KEEP SAYING THE SAME STUFF AS THE PEOPLE ABOVE , I GET IT NOW STOP BEFORE I DELETE THIS THREAD.

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Also my idea is that you need 2 maxed out horses and merge them to get next tier , would be better in my opinion and also people can drop the prices of horses this way. Also people do not have to suffer tragic losses. Also i still use boats bc i like passing thru ocean and seeing stuff. So i got an idea for tiered boats , sounds stupid due to us having seaskipper but well i like traveling by boat and seeing the bootiful scenes of wynncraft.

 

About my calculations, they are correct and confirmed by the wiki admins, github admins, various code writers and fellow people who calculated and got the same result.
Also, as I said on my thread I calculated the average breeding price not the market price.
The market price should be the average breeding price plus some extra le.
Brown - 24eb, the level doesn't matter here as its the lowest tier.
Black is 2-3le
Chestnut 16-20le
Whites are a wild card.

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This will raise the prices by lowering supply

 

Why are people trying to lower powder prices so much so quickly? In just a few weeks T6 prices have dropped from 14 le to 12, to 10 le for a few days, and now people are saying ~8 le?
It's not like T6's are easy to get - you need to find 16 T4's from enemies or chests, which are about as rare as legendary drops (or build up from tiers 1-3).

Hardly any legendaries sell for less than 1 le (except ones with extremely bad stats, or really low level / really unpopular ones), so it makes sense that T6's should sell for 10-16 le based on their rarity. At 8 le, it's essentially saying that all legendaries on average should each sell for 32 EB.

 

True but i didnt come up with the idea for lowering prices , this was suggested by fellow members and powder marketers. Duping and the large supply is problem. Theres 3x supply then demand. If demand and supply low = cheap. Supply low and demand high = expensive. Supply large and demand lower = decent-cheap.

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Well ;p getting maxed horses not hard and large supply of maxed chestnuts and so on. However what i really want is some good old tiered boats :D i luv em boats. Also sorry xD didnt know about being confirmed by so many people who were involved in the code and the chance ;p rip
Well good job on the thread :D u are a really liked and respected person however there will never be a time where everyone will follow the normal , calculated price. :(
Also what my main point is horses price are lowering slowly because supply and how much they are being sold for , due to ws builds horses are being sold less. So less demand then supply. Btw how i calculate , estimate a value of item is supply and demand also how to obtain and what u have to go thru. Also the duping of the item rate so ik what would be balanced. Still doing my calculations and work :p

 

People are following it since the thread was posted.
The only exception is whites

 

Oh okay. Actually chestnuts people do not follow either. people buy for 8-12 le. maxed 30/30 ive seen bought for 8 le. I have seen 1/30 go for 18-22 le. Also 35-48 le which is insanely retarded. Also a 50 sp blue mask( out of topic item) went for like 2 stacks of le ? wtf. There is some weird shit going on in WynnCraft xD

 

Most chestnuts ive seen getting sold were 16-20 le, of cost there are exceptions from time to time but they are rare.

 

Indeed but ive gotten like 16 30/30 chestnuts xDDDD not dupe just being a horse marketer xD

 

Something to add about the horse breeding
@Glitchedslayer has spent a total of 20 or so stacks of LE, find out from him how many whites he got and you'll see what a pretty good average would be, besides the theoretical one Yuno has calculated

 

Both the current and this powder prices are not reasonable because of the fact that buying 1024 t1 powders and turning them into a t6 might be cheaper (someone can test it) if it isnt then its good if it is then its a big problem Buying the 1024 powders would be 7le but I don't know how much it would be to turn them into t6. Also if u bought a t6 powder(s) for the current price this would lower the price by half making the price of the item it is on go down aswell. For horses you raised the price of a white the chesnut is the same as it has always been and the brown horses are normal i think but black was dropped by half. White horses 40/40 i have seen being sold from 80-90le so changing it to 95 le would just make it harder to obtain them and giving the sellers of these horses make money. so if I bought 20 whites not for 85le each I could sell it with your prices and make 200le :P.
(not every price might be right)

 

Well tier 4s x4 = tier 5 and tier 5 x 4 = tier 6. Thats how the price is calculated by. Also the price is determined by the community and what do they think about. Also supply and demand. Currently supply is about x2 or x3 the amount of demand. Doing a poll of 100 players or so and averaging which price should be set for powders. ;p currently in work by by @orange0401 he has made a poll and averaging it to determine a price. ;p

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Thanks for info and also ive agreed with yuno because her calculations are approved by the coders , admins and people who were involved.
However one thing to point out is the demand and supply ratio. Thats how something's worth is valued , well some of it.
Note: there will never be a time where everyone will agree on same price and so we all have our opinions and thoughts.
I would like to get to powder issue ;p. also i will be showing alot of calculations for the price of powdersand stuff so stay tooned for up coming stuff ;p