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Guide Horse's Breeding Prices

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Yuno F Gasai, Sep 17, 2015.

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should this get sticked

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  1. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    Hi I'm sure each one of you tried to buy/sell a horse and thought "oh, that's really expensive for a horse".
    I'm here to bring out the truth, horses are sold really cheaply compared to their average breeding cost.
    WARNING: MATH INCOMING
    as we all know the possible outcome of a breeding operation are: 20%-successful 50%-getting the same tier 30%-getting a lower tier.
    well as all of you know brown horses are sold at 24eb from the merchants thus require no breeding operations.
    I'll use 10 horses for each of my calculations, that makes 5 breeding operations
    going by the outcome chances 1 of the five operations will give us a black horse and the other 4 will give us brown horses (you cant get a lower tier). this means 10 brown horses gave us 1 black and 4 browns, that make a black worth 240eb (3.75le) and if we subtract the cost of the 4 spare brown horses 96eb (1.5le) we get a total worth of 144eb (2.25le)
    Black=2.25le (2le and 16eb)
    Black=2.25le (2le and 16eb)
    breeding 10 black horses will give us 1 chestnut, 2.5 blacks and 1.5 browns (there is a 50/50 chance to get either 3blacks and a brown or 2 blacks and 2browns).
    so a chestnut is worth 1440eb(22.5le) before we subtract the spare horses.
    2.5 blacks are worth 2.5*144eb=360eb
    1.5 browns are worth 1.5*24eb=36eb
    so 1440-360-36=1044eb(16.3125le)
    Chestnut=16.3125le (16le and 20eb)
    Chestnut=16.3125le (16le and 20eb)
    breeding 10 chestnut horses will give us 1 white 2.5 chestnuts and 1.5 blacks (there is a 50/50 chance to get either 3blacks and a brown or 2 blacks and 2browns).
    so a white is worth 10440eb (163.125le)before we subtract the spare horses.
    2.5 chestnuts are worth 2.5*1044=2610
    1.5 blacks are worth 1.5*144=216
    so 10440-2610-216=7614eb(118.96875le)
    White=118.96875le (118le and 62 eb)
    White=118.96875le (118le and 62 eb)

    Black Horse
    1le

    Chestnut Horse
    10*1le=10le for a chestnut before we subtract the other horses
    2.5 blacks =2.5le
    1.5 browns =36eb
    chestnut costs 444eb or 6le and 60eb

    White Horse
    10*444eb=4440eb (69le and 24eb) before subtracting additional horses
    2.5 chestnuts = 1110eb (17le and 22eb)
    1.5 blacks = 1.5le
    white costs 3234eb or 50le and 34eb

    Edit: thanks to @Kepler_17c the info is now on the wiki! Check it out here!

    I made a chart that calculates the prices automatically so you can play with the percentages and prices by yourself https://1drv.ms/x/s!Ahpn4fzjnxnrtVhbz7lJwRuF3D5H


    If you have any questions/corrections to make about my calculations you are more than welcome to post them.
     
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  2. Paladin A'renos

    Paladin A'renos High Grand Master of the Ordo Malleus HERO

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    eheheheehe and here i am selling white horses for 76le
     
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  3. Glitch496

    Glitch496 (Former) Master of the Wynncraft Wiki HERO

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    Behold, the power of math!

    Edit: Why TF is everyone liking this?
     
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  4. Hov_

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    @kolleden and I posted something similar, but about the nether armor. This math calculations tell you what a horse is worth, but nobody will sell/buy a white horse for 118le... koll and I tried to tell everyone what Enchanted Nether Armor is actually worth, but noone cared. Dont expect too much of these calculations cuz player market changes a lot. Just saying, but nice math skills tho :thumbsup:
     
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    kolleden Bop Bop VIP+

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    hes right,
    throughout wynncraft a market system was made... and as we see its reallly hard to change. only the bigger things change it like: did the item get duped, will it be removed, will it return, how much of it exists. and unless that happends, white will be 64 le, chestnut will be 20-15 le, black will be 2-3 le and brown will be 24 eb. thats not going to change any time soon
     
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  6. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    Well the reason horses are so cheap is because of the vip town horse merchant, but every market works by supply and demand. Wynn is expecting a huge increase in the number of players when gavel comes out (there was an increase just after cubedcon that filled every server to the brim for more than a week) as more people will want to buy horses two things will happen.
    A) the prices would go up by supply and demand
    B) players would tempt to breed their own horses (thus increasing the price)
     
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    for a super long time this topic is on my head, and its mostly about you A. argument:
    for a long time i was following the marketing on many rare collectables or item that are hard to get and well... no, it doesnt work the way you say.
    I belive that this way should work, i really do, but if you still didnt notice the price for every item in the game has never changed because of demand, it changed only because the big things: dupes, number of items existing, or is it still achieveable. thats why every collectable just... gets a price and sticks with it, and the only way the broken market changes is when a better item coems up, or item returns from the dead, supply and demand is the way it should work but quite francly nobody has the time or the will to do the thinking on how much the item is worth. so unless we get a tier 5 horse on gavel, horses wont change. sorry
     
  8. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    Bumpity bump
     
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  9. Jano

    Jano Tigers ain´t purple?!?

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    white horse isn´t that much.. its more like 50-55 LE !
    The solution is correct but that isn´t the market price!
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    That's because vip's used to buy black horses for 1le (under half of its breeding worth) that makes a white made from vip blacks worth around 50-60le
    The statistics are correct, I tested them myself.
    First try 18le made one Chestnut
    Second try 15le bought one Chestnut
    Third try 15le bought one Chestnut
    Fourth try 17 le bought one Chestnut
    If people sold like this the economy wouldn't crash, Chestnut horses are sold just a bit less than their breeding price so selling them at more would be great and it will encourage players to breed.
    About the white horses, I don't know if the content team did the math but paying 118le for a horse is a bit too much. But that's because we got used to seeing it everywhere. And the truth is that most people who could afford a white now could probably still buy it with the new price.
     
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    I'm sorry to say but these are very under and over priced! Real pricing here!
    Black: 1.5 LE
    Chestnut: 20-30 LE
    White: 40-60 LE
     
  12. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    Not sorry to say this but the ACTUAL price is this.....
    Black: 1-2 LE
    Chestnut: 10-15 LE
    White: 40-70LE
     
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    RubyOnRails Pro 360 WynnCraft no scoper VIP

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    Okay haha I trust you on stuff like this. Becuase you are actually "semi" wynn famous
     
  14. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    Btw blacks are sold lately at 2le and the price is going up.
    What about me? ;w;
    I'm a notable member...
     
  15. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    that one guy knows you so yes.
     
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    RubyOnRails Pro 360 WynnCraft no scoper VIP

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    Well your a popular youtuber, but a lot of people don't know that.
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    Hey has over 2000 subs.
     
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  17. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    I had more than 5k views on just one of my threads.
    and comparing the forums to YouTube isn't really fair is it?
     
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    RubyOnRails Pro 360 WynnCraft no scoper VIP

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    Okay I'm sorry for saying he is popular
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    You just cant compare math to horses
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW, former leader of Imp and Valk

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    no one is.
     
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    you did
     
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