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Give Hero Rank 8 Totems Daily [27 Supporters]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Tobulance, Dec 1, 2016.

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Do you think that Hero should get 8 totems

  1. Yes

    28 vote(s)
    65.1%
  2. No (explain)

    15 vote(s)
    34.9%
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  1. Tobulance

    Tobulance Famous Adventurer Media HERO

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    Its honestly simple math and I was suprised that you only get 6 totems and had to reread the store a few times to accept it. while I accept that its 6 totems that still doesnt add up, and heres the math

    $25 for Vip - 2 totems
    $50 for Vip+ - 4 totems (double the price double the totems
    $100 for Hero - 8 totems (double the price double the totems)

    All I hear is that hero isnt worth it and its mainly to support the server, so why not make it more worth getting and change it to an understandable number
     
  2. Tobulance

    Tobulance Famous Adventurer Media HERO

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    its 50/50 right now in votes and i put explain next to no for a reason, If you vote no id like you to explain why you think its a bad idea :/
     
  3. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    I have no intention of ever buying a rank.
    I don't particularly care about the balancing.
    But this ruins my OCD and it hurts.
     
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  4. 13threemc

    13threemc vote kanye 2020 CHAMPION

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    Hero is not a rank to buy for perks, it's a rank you buy to support the server, it doesn't need more perks cos that's not the point of the rank.
     
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  5. SmileyAlec

    SmileyAlec Olympic Gaming

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    excuse me

    wat
     
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  6. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    you say this like totems are the only thing anyone gets from ranks.

    heroes have advantages even over vip+:
    - 1x tier 2 crate, daily (vip+ gets tier 1, still better)
    - guaranteed beta access to any new shit that comes out because they've donated so much <--------- look at dis it's important to my point
    - majestic purple name tag
    - we already get 2 more totems than anyone else and they are restocked daily just like everyone else's

    have i missed anything?
     
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  7. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    We aren't suggesting it for the 'perks'.
    We're suggesting it because it kiLLS OUR OCD!
    IT BURNS LIKE FIRE!
    I'M MELTING!
    OH WHAT A WORLD!
     
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  8. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    if you're willing to overlook all the other awesome hero-only perks and rank perks in general just because the mob totem amount bothers your ocd (which it shouldn't, it's a linear change), suggesting this even remotely happen should be the least of your priorities. :v

    this is decent in thought but has no real justification or reason to back up actually adding it in aside from "flooooooooooooof it bothers my ocd aaaaaaaaaaaaaa" and i'm not exactly cool with that for a variety of reasons.
     
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  9. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    They dont get class reskins
    VIP: 2 Class Reskins
    VIP+(Doubled) To more class reskins
    Hero (Diubled) 0 Class Reskins
     
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  10. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    It's also not like it will hurt the server if they give out two more totems to someone who payed more, mr. comic sans.
     
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  11. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    ...if totem count kills your ocd and you aren't noticeably making a conscious attempt to fix your ocd, you're blaming the wrong party.
    you're missing the point that someone with the rank in question doesn't want this to happen (me and two other heroes have already commented upon this thread declining the idea, although i'm not sure how serious alec's post is) and has already pointed out one of the biggest reasons the rank is worth $100 - guaranteed beta access to new features. for example, if salted and crew want people to help test out corkus or a new gavel dungeon (le gasp), they know they can rely on the heroes to help since they've paid a ton for the server and care a lot about it. also, heroes already get two more totems than vip+ people.

    that beta access, in and of itself, is easily worth upwards of $40. the two extra totems can easily cover the extra $10 if we assume totems are around bomb price range and around $5. and that's all i wanna have us say about that.

    "BUT THOMAS WE WANT MORE TOTEMS FOR A RANK THAT THE OP HAS EVEN THOUGH HE'S THE ONLY HERO OPENLY SUPPORTING IT WAA-"
    *brick'd*
    i said, that's all we're going to say about that.
     
  12. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Double price= +2 totems, same increase as doubling in price from VIP to VIP+
    Double price= T2 instead of T1 crate
    Double price= Beta access
    I'm not really seeing an issue here.....
    Hero is mostly meant for people that really want to support the server, and yet you still get a ton of really good stuff from the rank itself
     
  13. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    Totems are nowhere near bomb price. 5 minutes of dxp in what, a 15 block radius?
    Ya everyone gets the xp but since the nerf, everyone has to participate.
    4 dxp bombs = 5$
    assuming that that small radius and shared xp cancel eachother out, we'll just cut it down by 3/4
    4 totems = 1.25$
    meaning that 8 totems for hero = 2.50$
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  14. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    considering the only way this would go is up, this only further proves my point. if we assume a constant totem price of closer to like...$12 each, that only makes hero rank more worth it.

    would it kill you people to consider, even for just a moment, the other perks we get and the fact that a hero-ranked person is declining the prospect? maybe the fact we're not just here to give the rest of you free grinding, but that we also have goals and intentions of our own with these totems? i for one don't even use my totems for mass grinding sessions, i use them for 2-or-3-people loot running sessions in frozen heights.
     
  15. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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  16. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    i was being incredibly lenient with my point when i said $40, it's probably closer to at least $60 or $70. do you realize what beta access entails? it means getting access to things like corkus and gavel updates before anybody else and being able to give personal feedback on those things so that the devs can change it so everyone else has a good time.

    also, by this same logic, everyone should be getting more totems if 8 totems for hero is a measly $2.50. if we go the direction this thread basically went and assumed totems were everything, then according to rank prices:
    vips = 80 totems
    vip+'s = 160 totems
    heroes = 320 totems - over a day's worth of totems per day, as the max that can be used in a single area per day assuming perfect timing for the whole 24 hours is 288.

    is there something i'm missing here? because so far it's just been attempts to defend an incredibly short-sighted idea.
     
  17. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    Let me go ahead and full analyze the hero rank prices.
    all vip - vip+ perks + 50$,
    +2$ for more totems/crates
    Then there's beta access.
    Beta access is nowhere near that amount.
    Yearly subscriptions for much better MMORPG's don't cost as much.
    Wynn has 112 20 minute quests, with very little actual content.
    That's about 40 hours of actual gameplay.
    Interspersed with ridiculous amounts of required grinding time.
    (90 after fantastic voyage to 95 with the 1k meters under quest is 12 hours alone).
    The only other options are dungeons, of which the time required to obtain keys and nii runes is comparable.
    And grinding parties in demon cave.
    Beta access can probably only be valued at 30$.
    40 is a good estimate when rounding up.
    that's about 90 total if you count in the VIP+ perks.
    meaning you have 10$ spare room.
    And remember we aren't saying ' we want more totems'
    we're just questioning the logic behind their numbers.
    Me and the OP could care less about 'value'.
    It's the logic of ratios.
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    is there something i'm missing here? Because so far it's just been an idiot attacking a legitimate question in comic sans.
    Are you American perhaps?
     
  18. ThomasThePencil

    ThomasThePencil Deranged Combat Warp User CHAMPION

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    yes, and comic sans is a personal choice. i've said this before.

    and maybe this idea somehow has reasonable backing to it, but i want no part of it when all it's doing is giving me more for the same price. i thought americans such as myself were often simply described as the lazy, overly fat dinguses who want everything handed to them. has that stereotype shifted, or am i just taking this way too seriously?
     
  19. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    Totems cannot be valued at much if you're looking at the general prices for ranks.
    It's quite obvious they didn't account for values when creating them, but totems take up what seem to be a minimal cost per 2 totems.
    VIP and all it's perks is 25$ and you get two totems. (I'm going to cut out name colors because really there is no value there).
    • Knight and Hunter reskinned classes
    • No lobby transparency
    • Ability to rename pets/horses
    • Notifies others when you login
    • Access to secret VIP forum
    • 2 extra classes
    VIP+ is only 25$ more and you get two more reskins, three extra classes, a daily crate, and the jukebox. +2 more daily totems
    The reskins and the extra classes most likely take up the bulk of the money, as the extra classes brush the edge of EULA.
    No one cares about lobby transparency.
    Renaming horses and pets might be a little bit.
    A lot of people I know would prefer to not notify people as they log in
    And access to a secret forum which is also useless sorta.
    For the totems to be valued at a high price other things would have to be valued at a low price.
    And I doubt they'd value anything there as low priced. Except maybe the jukebox. (jkplsnobanxavier).
    No one is complaining they don't get enough, we have no problems with the current amounts, nothing is wrong.
    Except for the math and the logic.
    2x2 = 4, but 4x1.5 = 6
    and 25x2 = 50 and 50x2 = 100
    This is not linear.
    It doesn't add up.
     
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