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World [1.9+] Shields! [40+ Supporters]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by eeveelution, Aug 14, 2016.

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  1. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    I never know how to start a thread, so imagine a professional intro here. Also, this has probably been suggested before but here's my take on it.

    What are shields, and why should they be in the game?
    As you probably know, there are shields in vanilla minecraft already. When Wynncraft updates to 1.9, these could be used as off-hand items and can add a new dimension to builds. They will be similar to accessories or armour, and they also will be a way to show off as other people can see them! Keep in mind that not all shields have to serve a purely defensive purpose, as they are a part of your gear and should fit your build accordingly.

    Why 1.9+? We already have a shield item in the Wynnpack!
    Although this is true, there are 2 things that you must consider:
    1. There is no off-hand in 1.8, so these would take up another inventory slot, and we all know that inventory space is important. Additionally, you can't both hold a shield and use your weapon with only one hand.
    2. 1.9 shields are customisable, which is a part of this suggestion (keep reading, I will explain this later on).

    How can you get them? What tiers are there?
    Shields can be gotten from loot chests or from mob drops (but they are about 1.5x as rare as necklaces).
    Shields can be normal, unique, rare, or legendary (possibly set too, if a shield is used in a set). Normal shields only exist for levels 8-25, uniques for levels 15-96, rares for levels 15-98, and legendaries for levels 20-100. The reason for so little normal shields is that people would be annoyed if they were grinding at level 99 and kept getting normal shields in addition to other normal items.

    How do the items look?
    [​IMG]

    (I can't make the heart and tick icons next to health and lv. min, sorry)

    What else do these shields do?
    As I mentioned earlier, they are customisable! As you know, vanilla shields can have banner logos on them. Why not have them in Wynn? Here's what I'm thinking:
    -Shields can have up to 9 shapes on them.
    -VIPs and VIP+ players can fully customise their shields.
    -Non-VIPs can customise their shields but are limited to red, green, blue, yellow, black and white.
    -All members of guilds can opt to have a logo specific to their guild on their shields.
    -Normal shields can't have any logo (even if in a guild)
    -Unique shields can have a logo which uses at most 2 colours (Except if using the guild logo) including the base colour. They come in white by default.
    -Rares can have a logo which uses at most 3 colours (Except if using the guild logo) including the base colour. They come in red by default.
    -Legendaries can have a logo with any amount of colours. They come in blue by default.

    How do you design the shields?
    To change your equipped shield's design (the one in your offhand slot), you simply go to the compass menu and choose the "design shield" button (which could replace the one for dying armour, if that never gets implemented).
    If you don't have a shield equipped, the following message will appear in the chat:
    Please put a shield in your off-hand slot!
    If the shield is normal, the following message will appear instead:
    Normal shields cannot have designs!
    Otherwise, you will be taken to a menu like this:
    [​IMG]
    or, for non-VIPs:
    [​IMG]
    Clicking on a colour sets it as the background (base) colour of the shield. When you click the check mark, you will be taken to one of the following screens.
    for rare shields:
    [​IMG]
    for unique shields:
    [​IMG]
    (legendary shields don't get this screen, they go straight to the next one)
    Clicking on a colour on the left hand side adds it to the colour palette, replacing the 1st one (if all spaces are taken). Clicking on a colour on the right hand side removes it from the colour palette. If you have at least one colour chosen, the check marks turns green (if not then it's yellow). If you click it, you go to the next screen:
    [​IMG]
    Clicking the arrows next to the powder cycles through your colour palette (or all colours you can use, if designing a legendary shield). They aren't present when designing unique shields as you can only have 2 colours - The base, and one shape colour.
    Clicking the bottom arrows cycles through the shapes you can put on the banner. If you click on the banner, it gets added to the list in the middle.
    If you want to remove a shape from the design, just click on it in the list. If you want to clear all the shapes, then click the red check mark.
    If you want to change a shape's place in the list, simply shift-click it to move it back one spot or press Q over it (drop it) to move it forward one spot.
    Once you are happy with your design, you can click the green check mark and your shield will be updated to the new design!

    Note: If you are editing a shield with a design already on it, the choices will be remembered so you don't have to re-create the whole thing from scratch if you want to change it slightly.

    Examples of shields?
    Here, one example per tier (raw IDs):
    Normal
    Lightweight Shield

    Health: +15

    Lv. Min: 10
    +4% Walk Speed

    Normal Item

    Unique
    Nivla Bark

    Health: +79

    Lv. Min: 21
    Strength Min: 6

    +2 Strength
    +6% Melee Damage
    -5% Walk Speed

    Unique Item

    Rare
    Volcanic Slab

    Health: +1150
    Fire Defence: 70
    Water Defence: -65

    Lv. Min: 64
    Defence Min: 20

    +310 Health Bonus
    +50 Health Regen
    +12% Exploding
    +6 Defence
    -20% Walk Speed
    -20% Water Damage
    -1/4s Mana Regen

    Legendary
    Atlantic

    Health: +1900
    Fire Defence: 120
    Thunder Defence: -150

    Lv. Min: 90
    Intelligence Min: 85

    +2/4s Mana Regen
    +2/4s Mana Steal
    +6 Intelligence
    +19% Spell Damage
    -17% Melee Damage
    -1 Tier Attack Speed
    -6 Defence

    Suggestions:
    @Porrim Maryam - Shields could be remodeled to something else, as to some people it may sound weird for archers/assassins/mages using giant shields. (My idea for this - make them minishields, so they look more natural on less tanky classes. They could even look just like the current rabbit hide texture, which is a round shield. The only question is if you can preserve the designs using an altered model...)

    Some item ideas by MLG Sagiitarius (thanks a lot :D)
    So there you go! Please vote in the poll and tell me what you like, dislike and what you think should be different :) Constructive criticism is appreciated!
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2016
  2. Endertricity

    Endertricity Assorted Mini Quiche VIP

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    This is super cool and well thought out! I hope to see something like this in-game when 1.9 is put on Wynn.
     
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    TheHipster Famous Adventurer

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    i never read it but since you're a game programmer it's probably good
     
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  4. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    I love that ! And a lot of effort has been put into this thread !
     
  5. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    Thanks :D Somehow naming the shields was the hardest part for me xd
     
  6. Sanae_pls

    Sanae_pls That Fucking Dark Wizard

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    Maybe make some items not compatible with shields? Like for example, I don't know how the fuck you'd fire a bow while holding a shield LOL (allow crossbows (so earth bows) to be compatible with shields since they're one-handed?) and possibly some spears too sonce they can be two-handed?
     
  7. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    The only problem is that offhand can screw up spells. The spells register right click from an item, but the offhand will send the right click to the offhand item, not regestering for the spell.

    (Actually I'm not sure if that's the actual reason,a lol I know is offhand screws up spells. I'm assuming that's why.)
     
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  8. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    Wouldn't that make it unbalanced and annoying though? Especially since pretty much all daggers are one-handed. Also, the shield is actually on the side of your arm if you look at it, so I guess you can fire a bow with it equipped :P
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    I guess it can be fixed though, by combining both inputs (possibly).
     
  9. Sanae_pls

    Sanae_pls That Fucking Dark Wizard

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    Still think it should be that way .-.
     
  10. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    Idk, for me it would make the game much more annoying. Shields should be just like other armour/accessories, but with an aesthetic feature too. Each to their own, I guess :)
     
  11. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    While I feel that fully 1.9 suggestions shouldn't really be a thing yet, this is a pretty good way to implement shields.

    The only other thing is that it's possible the content team already has plans for shields.
     
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    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    I posted this now because if I were to put it away for later, someone else could have had the same idea and people would accuse me of copying once I post my thread :P

    Also, that's the risk you take with any suggestion ;)
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    All true, but as a more obvious feature of 1.9, the risk is that much higher.

    It's not a problem with your suggestion, which is rather good, it's just an observation.
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    On zentrala it doesn't fuck the spells up so I guess something can be done.
     
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    IggyBoii I Have No Idea What Im Doing VIP

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    what class would they be used for? and this is basically would make all classes way more op with more stat bonus's also i want atlantic .-.
     
  16. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    Any. It's like armour or accesories. And as for balance, this is inevitable whenever you add more items. If it would be a big balance issue, it's possible to make a script which multiplies all mob's damage/health/whatever so it doesn't have to be done manually for each mob. This could also be applied for later updates if the game is found to be too easy or too hard.
     
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    A mage, assassin or archer using a shield sounds really stupid tho. Otherwise it's cool.
     
  18. Morgan83

    Morgan83 Too lazy to change from Xmas picture HERO

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    Well it doesn't actually have to be a shield, it could be a gauntlet or a glove or something like that that could go in the off hand slot to give the player more buffs and hp. @eeveelution coukd you maybe add this to the idea cause the people saying that an archer or assassin holding a shield is a bit weird but an archer wearing a glove or an assassin wearing a metal gauntlet isn't weird at all, in fact it's quite common to see archers using a glove on their firing hand
     
  19. eeveelution

    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    Well, I chose shields not only because they belong in that slot the most, but also because you could put designs on them. If it's possible to remodel the item and preserve the custom texture mapping, then you could make it something else (or maybe even a mini-shield, so that it makes more sense for assassins or archers). I'll add this to the thread :)
     
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  20. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    I love this idea, but I think that you should change it abit. What im thinking is that the texture on your shield is your guilds flag, which is made by your guild leader. This way, when you play you can represent your guild by using your shield. Also, shields should work with all classes the same, and not be disabled (not protect when rightclicked).
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    I dont think this is a problem, im sure this would only trigger the people with ocd, and even then it doesnt really make a difference.
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    If dislikes existed, you would be getting swarmed....
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    NO DONT LISTEN TO THEM THIS WILL RUIN THE ASPECT FORE EVERY CLASS EXCEPT FOR warrior;-;
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    Yeah. Make it so that shields are disabled. So simple.
     
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