World Archer Balancing Imo - With Explaining And Stuff

archer in my opinion has 1 skill which makes it slightly over powered
archer :
arrow shield
now why is arrow shield overpowered?
1) it does a high amount of damage and can one shot players at high lvls without a problem

2)it blinds the enemy and renders him useless for a few seconds

3) it is a shield against most melee attacks in the game on the best ranged class (also good against melee mobs)
so now not only is it hard to get near an archer because of their speed and jumping abilities even when u do you get rekt (or the mob/boss) , leaving range fights the only good way of fighting archer , range , which is a super bad idea as archer is the best ranged class

not only that but thanks to arrow shield archer does every single elemental damage in the game , something even mage cant do (and mage is the spell class it should have the most elemental damages

so my nerf suggestions?
1) remove the water damage from arrow shield and add 30% air damage at all lvls , that way archer is like assassin and mage and only has 4 elemental damages

2) make the arrow shield not allow you to regen mana when its on , now this is like vanish only that it wont drain ur mana only wont let you regen it , you cant regen the mana even with mana regen BUT if thats added also make arrow shield only cost 4 mana

thats it,
only trying to nerf the melee aspect of archer since it is not meant to be good at melee and if another class or a mob gets near it the archer deserves a punishment it shouldnt just knock them away without any problem (which it can still do but it cant run around with arrow shield on all of the time so nothing can get near it no worries at all) it will have to use arrow shield only when it sees the enemy running at it

TDLR ; -make arrow shield not allow you to regen mana when its on and make it cost 4 mana instead of 10
-remove the water elemental damage from arrow shield and give it 30% air damage at all lvls


also i might do one for mage alltho in my opinion mage has 3 op skills (ice snake makes it so you cant move , meteor has insane damage highest in the game and heal makes it so mage is super tanky) but this is for the next thread

 

@Selvut283 Can I tag a mod if they were talking about how arrow sheild is op?

 

Nerfing arrow shield has already been confirmed. The suggestion is a good idea but the water damage, should not get removed but nerfed so that it still does all five elements. Also mage is not op. You need to have a strategy to defeat it. Basically if you're archer always stay in the air with escape. Never ever let them meteor you. If they ice snake just go ahead and blind them with Escape Stomp. If you're an assassin you should spin attack to remove ice snake slow and then quickly bet you have a spam/huge burst damage build. Because if you have a low damage weapon you're basically done for. If you're warrior charging at them works the best. If you're a mage you should tp out of their meteor and quickly counter attack. It's so simple to counter mage imo.

 

the thing with mage is (btw i am talking about spell spamming mage mainly alltho other kind of mages can also do it pretty well) is that if you dont one shot them they wont die
nothing to do against it , and that would be fine if they wouldnt have the highest damaging ability in the game and an ability who doesnt allow you to move at all even if "juke it" (if you charge above it for example it still hits) so basically tank builds/quick build/other spell spamming builds that are not mage cant really take it on cuz they wont 1 shot it and if you deal a ton of damage to the mage but u are super low from his ice snake spam and run away he just heals it all up and all of your progress is like nothing
also its not simple to escape meteor cuz of ice snake it doesnt let you move , ik ik assassin can spin attack and remove it , warrior can charge archer can jump and all but assassin cant spin attack fast enough before he gets meteor and ice snake spammed , warrior and archer even if they escape their fov is so shit they can barely see
now lets not talk about mage here this is for another thread as said , and i have a few good suggestions i will make it later and we could continue this conv

also about archer , i dont see why it deserves 5 elemental damages? thats something only a super spell based class should get like mage but archer ? whats so special about it that it deserves all of the elemental damages

 

The low defense. 60% base defense is too low. It TOTALLY deserves all the elemental damage :^| Freedom is op cuz of dat

 

Any competent mage player would dodge that by teleporting through you, blinding you.

 

it has low defense because it has insane damage and agility + range
it can do very well without all the elemental damage , also freedom is pretty good either way

 

Would you do it :O!

 

Yes, because teleport would blind you, damage you, and get me away from your attack.
Unless you're an archer with arrow shield up, in which case I would probably choose an upward angle instead, which would snap me to the floor and still put me behind you.

 

1. Any class can have super high agility.
2. The mage can be really really long range with ice snake
3. Warrior does more damage than archer.
4. Freedom is good? Wat

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I would arrow shield and walk behind me. Also if that was nether that would not work. How does one person just teleport in an upwards position in the sky?

 

1. Yes, but archer can have more walk speed than any other class.
2. Not as far as archer.
3. Hell no, unless you abuse the attack speed bug with Alkatraz which is being fixed in the update.
4. Yes. Very.

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I would look towards you, move my cursor 45 degrees up, and teleport? Not that hard.

 

1. Stratiformis is really rare gl if you get one
2. TP + ice snake is probably the longest range i've ever seen
3. :( Idol is a thing you know.
4. Grandmother, Az, and Ignis are more viable for damage, Ignis has HP Bonus as well. Grandmother is for tons of damage, Az is the same reason, Ignis for HP + MEGA DMG OMG!

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Whenever I TP into the sky like that it always gives me that message where it fails >.>

 

Teleport doesn't do dmg/effect players

 

Yes it does.

 

It has upgrades at lvl 26 & 46, it deals damage if you go through them and it blinds them if you go through them as well.

 

Try dueling someone and teleporting into them, it only works on mobs

 

I've duelled plenty of mages; teleport has always damaged and blinded me.

 

Well, it used to. They removed the damage and blind for players because then a mage could just spam tp and ice snake even more effectively

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I couldn't find the thread where people responded to someone saying it with why it doesn't do dmg anymore.

 

i use idol and with a "more defensive" idol build u do 8k uppers , with the highest damage idol build (which will get you 1 shot by any other class) you do like 14k upper cuts (without tier attack speed)

but freedom is not only damage its overall good , ok defense , ok agility , ok health , ok damage, ok mana regen , ok spell damage , ok melee damage
thats whats good about it

 

it's only okay damage because of the tier attack speed bug, and the defense is uncomparable to Ignis, the damage sucks compared to Az, and the melee damage is outclassed by Grandmother, If I had a choice i'd go @Net_Twerk 's Bastion build with Ignis/Grandmother for damage + tons of defense.