Mod's Rules?

doesn't saying that contradict rule 1?

 

Yes, but im not mod.

 

10/10 loophole

 

Ikr

 

omg I thought you bypassed 10 char for a sec there lmao

 

Alright. After reading this entire thread, I am compelled to say a few a things that, in my somewhat learned opinion, and after a few years of experience dealing with conflict resolution, need to be said, and some that need to be repeated.

@IntSerErr , that's very good advice, coming from you, and I, for one, would appreciate your adherence to it. If you have anything else to complain about, concerning your ban, please take it up with the staff member that banned you, rather than trying to incite an uproar against him, at every chance that you get, in every thread that you can, and in the shoutbox, consistently. Yes, we know that he won't respond to you. I've told you before that I can only surmise that he's tired, after weeks of trying, by your own admission, to get through to you that spamming is unacceptable. You want a lesser ban for it, because you think that it's not a big deal, as you've stated all over the forums,too. Most of the world disagrees with you, which is why spam blockers are so popular.

You were banned, by your own words and admissions, for downloading the map, and for spamming. You still haven't learned to stop doing the second infraction; your constant shoutbox posts about it amount to spamming. I've said to you that you aren't helping your situation acting in this manner, and I've suggested to you that you should stop doing it, before you risk getting shoutbox and/or forum banned for it. Now, you've been, in public, told to stop, by @Ganny . That's not shaming, and the posters who supported your comment need to stop and think about this. That's what happens in many threads when a mod has to step in and tell someone to stop what they are doing. It's called a warning. It's a public warning, so that everyone else knows to stop it, too. And it's a public warning so that there is a public record concerning that specific behavior, so that, if in the future, something else happens, everyone can go back and see that you were warned. No questions asked. If you aren't willing to take anyone's reasonable advice concerning your situation, that is your choice. It is your conscious decision to continue acting in this manner. Whatever consequences may befall you for those actions, those consequences won't be coming without your having been forewarned.

It's my personal feeling, that you have been given more than enough chances to stop behaving in this manner. You should take your issue up with the mod who banned you, if you can bring yourself to be honest enough to accept that what you did was bad enough to justify a second ban. If you can't do that, well, I hate to say this, but maybe you should give up on being unbanned, because you obviously aren't going to move the mod who banned you, and no amount of crying to the rest of the forums is going to change that situation. On the contrary, you are hurting yourself by acting this way and you might end up with further actions taken against you by the staff. It's my opinion, that the only reason that you haven't been shoutbox or forum banned already, is because the staff doesn't want it to look like they can't take criticism. At this point, I personally believe that they have proven that they can, but that's just one person's opinion.
-Peace

 

Do you really have to go out of your way to make people feel bad? Like, seriously, what other reason is there to bring up this one specific mistake. I'm sure they realize that wasn't the best decision at this point, do you really need to shame them for it?

And yes, I realize I'm doing the exact same thing to you.

 

This is why you need and deserve moderator

 

Yes, the most important rule of all time. Made a cool picture for you:

 

*Insert Jonah Jameson laughing*

 

Just... stop.

 

1) WynnCraft doesn't have an "anti-spam" plugin on their server. If they really wanted to enforce the "Do not spam" rule then they would've installed an anti-spam plugin.

2) At the time I was banned for spamming, such rule never existed for spamming. No where on the rules page did it say anywhere about spamming but it did say to use common sense and it also said "Saying 'it wasn't specified on the rules' is not a valid excuse." which brings me onto my next point.

3) This rule is for something else but I'm pretty sure it uses the "It wasn't specified on the rules" excuse. A user on he forums who's name will not be mentioned has been downloading the Wynncraft map in-order to make renders, they then sell their renders for LE. The moderators know that this user was downloading the map because the moderators have been deleting threads this user has created so they are well aware that this user has been downloading the map... but this user isn't banned, why? I'm pretty sure this user wasn't banned because it doesn't say anywhere on the CURRENT rules that downloading the map is a bannable offence. I've then came into contact with this user they say that they should be warned because it wasn't specified on the rules that downloading the map was a bannable offence. If this user isn't banned for downloading the map when it isn't specified on the rules then why was I banned for spamming when at the time I was banned, it never stated on the rules that spamming is not allowed.

Moe, you're correct, I may be acting like a little bitch about my punishment but it does really piss me off when I have many points to address but the staff just keep on ignoring me. I have appealed but I'm going to assume my appeal will get ignored for a few weeks then get deleted like it did last time.

 

Yeah, that rule 1 is a very important rule.

 

Plplplplplpllplplplplpl!

 

There really is no need for a point-by-point rule, nor plugin, for every single thing. If we were to expect that, then there would be no time to code the game, itself; all of the time spent coding would be for anti-junk plugins. It's unreasonable to to expect this. Hence, the "use your common sense" rule.

As above, the owners and staff expect players to use their common sense. Spammers are reviled because they post unwanted information where it is not wanted and not needed. There is no reason to make 'don't spam' a separate rule, the same as is there is no reason to make hundreds, if not thousands, of rules, about expected social behavior. We all have learned what behaviors are expected of us from our parents and teachers. Why should any social situation, such as an MMORPG that bills itself as a family friendly environment, be any different than any other social situation, such as being in a store or on a playground? What response would you expect if you were to walk in a store and start shouting the time of day, every minute? Personally, I expect that the store would ask me to leave, and that if I didn't comply, that they would call the police on me for refusing to leave and for disturbing the peace. Spam is the equivalent of disturbing the peace.

Downloading of implicitly copyrighted and obviously protected intellectual property, for any purpose or puposes, other than those approved by the owner of such intellectual property, may, in fact, be illegal, besides being bannable. Now, we get into territory, that I am not free to discuss. I'm sorry, but I cannot discuss this topic any further.

My first reaction at your first conjecture is !!
You aren't acting like a little b!tch, however, you may be a pain in the @ss. As long as you defend your action(s) spamming, you will probably get ignored. That's my best guess. That's where the problem lies, as far as I can tell. When a rule says "use your best judgement" or "act on your best behavior" or "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", it's expected that everyone will do just that, and act as if they are around their aunts and uncles and don't want to get sent home. Remember, "Saying 'it wasn't specified in the rules' is not a valid excuse" does not excuse you from spamming when there wasn't a specific rule against it. No one can delineate every rule of human behavior, although governments do try.

 

Why do countless people spam in Detlas and get away with it when I spam in the lobby and get a perma ban?

That's my next point...

Also, because this is an RPG game, people might use their common sense and think spamming is allowed...

Even if I do accept what I did, I probably won't get unbanned because of the punishment system Grian put in place... Although thinking about that, the moderators are allowed to use their own discretion.

 

If no one is doing anything about it, it's not spamming, it's desperation. The intentions are different, and I'm sure you can wrap your head with a few comparisons within this game, as well as in real life. And if anyone is irritated by it, doesn't means that's common sense(as Wynn kindly says on the rules), leading to a ban, because we clearly have some irritating personalities here on Wynncraft, and that would just make it plain censorship.

Your definition of spam is definitely way more than what it is. Reiteration is okay, and he definitely needs to reiterate stuff if nobody is doing something about it, other than reply mediocrely.

Sure, a warning by calling someone unhappy. I don't think in any way can you justify those words as a warning, when it's not. That was blatant shaming. If we're going to involve diplomacy on this, the proper reply wouldn't be like that at all. And whether you see it as a warning, in all senses it was inappropriate, and it clearly didn't get its point across.

Shoutbox ban for trying to defend yourself? Shoutbox ban when the mods give you incompetent replies that translate to "because you're unhappy, I'm not going to do anything about it"? Shoutbox ban when the mod is insulted, and apparently mods put feelings at what they do. How does that translate to in the aftermath? If their work ethic relies on feelings, can they do a proper work?
The moderators have said all the wrong things to a guy that is trying to make a discussion, and do something about it, and nobody is willing to discuss about it—that isn't taking criticism.

No need?—What is the Frequently Asked Question thread for? No need?—Do you know what transparency means? No need?—Certainly needed when Wynncraft tries to control demeanor, and tries to not discourage players by saying "common sense".

"Unwanted information where it is not wanted and not needed"—Not being able to make a discussion? You just said a few moments ago IntSerErr had given very good advice, now you say he's unwanted. Bias?

People come from different places. Parents have different standards, so does Wynncraft. Wynncraft is not being flexible, and is being infallible with their one way, and one way only of thinking. That leads to misunderstanding. And their common sense leads to miscommunication. And then their staff team only enunciating the rules, not discussing, nor wanting to discuss, leads to offenses and unfairness. There is a loop-hole with that common sense, and the only thing which justifies to you not being descriptive is because "it is a waste of time". People have different standards, so does you. If someone is going to judge this way, and someone else is going to judge this other way, we're all judging what we shouldn't. And because of that, that Wynncraft needs to take the task and commit.

Wynncraft has a store itself. And the client service is amazing. Moderator are not store keepers. Moderators are arbitraries. If an arbitrary is not listening, they're not doing their job properly. And if they're going to listen, and make their judgement absolute, that isn't open-minded either, nor even what the whole purpose of an arbitrary is.

Spam = disturbing peace? lol? I irritated you, and because of that you're going to take action about it? Am I the only one that sees how childish that is?

Before defending Wynncraft with their original content, you should realize your same Wynncraft is doing this impunity. Most of the skins they use in the game are used without permission, and go against the author's permission. I was one of those persons who they used my work avoiding my copyright. I saw work from my fellow peers, an asked Wynncraft about it, and told Wynncraft they were breaking copyright from other authors, and Wynncraft didn't care.

 

I'm just gonna put this here...

Source.

 

When I was banned such rule like that never existed...

 

When were you banned?