World Arrow Shield Rebalance

ok so i am gonna make this quick i have been thinking about this for a while and i think its time to just put it here
make arrow shield drain your mana OR cancel any mana regen while its on
the reason for that is that litterly , arrow shield pretty much cancels every melee attack that may ever come on you , render your enemy useless for a couple seconds and damage him
keeping enemies from coming into melee range as a ranged class with insane damage is a massive advantage , and the fact you can use it once and have it on you the entire fight while ur enemy tries his best not to get hit by it is very unfair
and its not like they can try and win a ranged fight with you , archer is a ranged class they simply cant win a ranged fight
against mobs its pretty much a promise that 70% of the mobs in the game (melee ones) cant hit you while its on , you can do whatever you like and feel fine with it cuz u have ur shield on for example just run into a group of melee enemies and instead of you taking damage they take the damage like an actual cactus , and after its used you can easily pull another one because you regen your mana to full while its on
now to sum it all up
1) make arrow shield drain your mana (just like vanish) BUT make it cost 4 mana instead of 10
2) make arrow shield not drain your mana but rather cancel any mana regen (make it cost 6 mana instead of 10 for that)
BOTH WAYS should make you able to cancel arrow shield if you have it on by simply hitting or switching from your weapon
yep thats it

 

The only problem with making Arrow shield drain mana is that, unlike vanish, you cannot turn off arrow shield at will. Sure you can just ram a mob, but that's not exactly convienient, despite being easy. It would definitely take enjoyment out of playing the class in the main game because arrow shield would become more of an inconvienence than anything else. Making it drain mana in PvP would be especially horrible because after casting it, your opponent can just camp away from you while your shield is up. You won't be able to cast more than a couple of spells because of the mana drain, making it EASY for them to beat you at range.

tl;dr, this wouldn't balance arrow shield, it would make it an inconvienence to play archer because it would be impossible to do anything effectively until you dropped the shield somehow...



I do however agree that arrow shield deserves a nerf... Not in terms of mana (10 mana is a heck of a lot if you're not using a water build), but in damage. If you ignore the damage output of the attack, arrow shield does exactly what it's intended to do. Knock back and incapacitate melee attackers. The part that makes it broken in my opinion is the damage.

I haven't bothered to check the numbers on the Wynncraft help page in a while, but I know for a fact that arrow shield does a lot more damage than arrow bomb. When playing archer, I often find it easier to kill immediate groups of mobs by ramming them with an arrow shield deployed, rather than firing an arrow bomb or arrow storm.

It seems somewhat ironic to me that a spell named arrow shield is one of, if not my best offensive option as an archer, despite clearly being made as a defensive ability...

tl;dr, a "defensive" spell shouldn't be doing twice as much damage as my offense oriented spells.

 

I don't think there's a problem with arrow shield.

Pros:
Pretty good damage
Protection from Melee mobs

Cons:
Very short range
Take up a lot of mana
Doesn't block ranged attacks or spells

The fact that it protects the player is absolutely necessary for archer, with the standard 60% defense. This spell allows a much better alternative for close range combat than, say, bomb arrow.

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I find that arrow shield has a much lower dps/ damage capability than any other spell (except escape I guess, but why use that?). It only does slightly more damage than bomb arrow and the upgrade does practically nothing - arrow rain never hits.

 

just added

the best offense is defense
or is it the best defense is offense but wait if the best defense is offense than its also the opposite so ye

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but the entire point is that archer is meant to suck at close range
i mean it has everything else , it has damage , range and agility
its flaw is defense which also creates another flaw bad melee

1) very short range - thats the thing why would archer have such a good advantage against every melee mob/player when it already has the best range advantage
2) you can just use it at the start before you fight people and regen mana up quickly
3) ye.... but thats not such a massive flaw cuz archer has insane range
and it does block close range spells by not allowing the enemy to get near

 

First off, I agree with you - Arrow Shield definitely needs a rebalance. However, as has been stated, Mana shield cannot be disabled, making your proposed solutions rather ineffective. In addition to the damage nerf that has been proposed (@Triverr), I would also propose a slightly reduced duration for Arrow Shield in exchange for a 20% reduced mana cost (8 mana instead of 10).

Second off, please fix your formatting a bit - although you bring up an excellent point, you could probably use some reformatting. If you want, I can reformat it for you.

Overall, you brought up an excellent point - Arrow Shield needs to be nerfed, in some form or other!

 

Just because the archer is a ranged class, and has bad defense doesn't mean it's supposed to be terrible at close range. There always has to be some balancing feature. Besides, arrow shield doesn't make it nearly possible to go head-on against mobs and enemies- it will always be a ranger.

 

Sure :3 i cant really do that rn cuz i am on my phone

i am pretty sure it just lasts until you get hit

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no the fact that archer has a bow and its normal attack is ranged and everything in it except arrow shield is build as a ranged ability means its supposed to suck at melee :P
even arrow shield has some minor range cuz of arrow rain

 

Arrow rain never hits anything. And arrow shield is mostly meant as a last resort, when your range advantage has been taken away.

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It does have a duration of about 30 seconds (which I agree, probably should be shortened to 15/20). After that time, the arrows just stop.

 

and there's me that never use it ._.

 

I dunno guys... Outside of PvP, I've NEVER used Arrow Shield defensively.

I'm fairly sure that you are able to cancel your arrow shield by switching to another slot.

Mana drain/ no mana regen is a bit harsh. I suggest a slowness debuff while shield is active.

 

slowness doesnt address the problem that he was talking about

 

Arrow shield is a shield, not something you'd use to continuously damage an enemy. Archers use it if they want to be cautious.

 

I personally hate the arrow shield all in all...... I use it maybe once out of 100 spells used and mostly it's because I miss click

 

yeah you covered most of the problems on a scale of 1 to 10 i give it a -1 sorry

 

you want to make arrow shield like vanish, but it really shouldn't be like it for a number of reasons. if i remember correctly you wouldn't accept that assassin wouldnt be buffed, is this your way of achieving it by try to nerf the other classes

 

nope assassin needs a buff anyways , if i would want to "achieve it by nerfing other classes" the first class i'd nerf is mage and not archer
this is about arrow shield , and im not trying to make it like vanish its just that the best way i see of nerfing it is not allowing the archer to have it on the entire fight but rather use it if he fricks out when an enemy gets too close and knock him away to get back in range

thats the problem , as long as there arent like 20 enemies (and by that i mean a low amount of mobs/1 player) archer can always stay at range even if they are 3 blocks from it




also if people really dont like this idea there is also the solution of litterly making it deal 1/4 times the damage it deals now or making it last for like 8 seconds

 

Why not just make Arrow Shield break as soon as the Archer/Hunter takes any damage? Every class has a ranged spell they can do this with (War Scream, Ice Snake, Smoke Bomb).

 

assassin doesnt really need a buff. it is fine where it is. One reason people see it is bad is that the "main" build people use is not a very good build and many other builds work a lot better

 

My build with it is amazng but there arent many good assassin builds
Anyways this is not about assassin plz stay on topic