World Assassin Rebalance (44 Supporters)

Just something to avoid ice snakes and meteor spam

 

Though I don't exactly like this idea, (I wuv mai smoke bomb :3) I do agree it to be a necessary balance. Smoke bomb has the highest range and damage yet multi-hit costs 2 mana more. There are times where multi-hit is more useful, but not that often. +1 supporter

 

not really happy about not able to kill any shit except archer with my GLASS CANON build in nether

and none of the players there are tank build

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so.. assassin dealing 500% per 5 seconds
oo seems pretty great

on the other hand mage deals 500% too within 2 seconds including fire ring

 

Not everyone knows how to make an effective build. Level 84 here and I still can't make a simple exp one. There's a broad spectrum of casual players as well, whom may not go about creating builds/using builds.

 

Sorry to tell you but your build sucks ass then.. i have over 8.5k hp and deal 9-12k multihits with 110 agility... Thats not a glass cannon imo

 

Is your build only air/water?

 

Yea it is.. well its raw spell,too

 

That's because with a mage your spells are basically your only source of damage, whereas with assassin you have the second strongest DPS ingame PLUS your spells

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As for what Selvut said, With Smoke bomb you can strafe in a circle and keep the enemy in the smoke, as well as continue hitting them with your standard attack, but you can't hit an enemy in a multi-hit unless they are against a wall.

 

This is exactly what I mean, unless you're fighting a mob with charge or teleport (Not many) you can utterly destroy them with smoke bomb while multihit remains underutilized.
Most people's arguments on why this should not be changed are "Multihit can hit them away, and people are smart enough to not stand in smoke bomb." Wynncraft in 99% PvE, not PvP. I'm saying that smoke bomb is overpowered against most MOBS, not real players! @Selvut283

 

Against ranged mobs? Perhaps, but the fact still remains that the damage is set over a total of 5 seconds, meaning it is still far from optimal for your main offense, but great as a supplement. Multihits still deals more damage overall than Smoke Bomb in a faster time-span, and what if you are not fighting a ranged mob? Many mobs nowadays have movement patterns that make Smoke Bomb much less effective(hello, Charging AI) or simply enough speed to escape the Smoke Bomb even if you are circle-strafing to keep them inside. You can make the argument that you can use Spin Attack to keep them inside, but that still ends up costing more mana overall, and more effort overall, than simply casting Multihits once would do. I seriously do not see where the disbalance is.

 

Not once you get force. Unless you're in an enclosed space, multihit will send your opponent quite far away, and you have to wait for them to come back, or chase after them. And, in an enclosed space, it's tougher for enemies to escape smoke bomb, so even then Smoke Bomb is generally the better option. I almost never use multihit because it just makes it tougher to kill the enemy. A slight damage boost while hitting what I want to kill away from me? I'll stick with the close range freezing spell and the ranged spell with great damage, thank you.

 

Yes, still once you get Force. Remember what I said about Assassins being able to chain spells together utilizing the knockback from Multihits?

 

#Makeassassingreatagain

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Not that its bad :P

 

The problem, in my opinion, is the fact that smoke bomb is a damage spell. I feel it should be reworked to be more of a disabling spell, something to confuse and blind/slow your opponents so you can get behind them and shank them.

 

Spin Attack and Vanish already cover that.

 

I think both Xavier and Selvut have very valid points, bit I do still lean towards smoke bomb being stronger. I use it a lot more too....

 

ye i'm not

also smoke bomb gives slowness , keep that in mind so nerfing the damage by say 10% a tick wouldnt be overkill since it would still have that slowness effect and decent damage going for it (so pretty much 40% with 10 ticks , 400% , still a lot of damage and remember it has slowness effect)

also for me (with xp set , ye i know xp sets suck) i deal like 700 a tick on smoke bomb and 200 a hit on multi hit tick
every smoke bomb tick is 50% damage and it has 10 ticks
every multi hit tick is 25% damage and it has 10 ticks (alltho it does have a final 100% tick)
making smoke bomb sum up at a total of 500% damage and multi hit at 350% damage while multi hit costs way more mana and has like 10 times less range
so giving multi hit one of the 3 options
1) 2 more ticks , making it deal 400% with a bit more knockback
2) 30% less mana cost , making it cost 7 mana instead of 10
3) make every tick deal 5% more damage , making it have 400% damage on total

ofcourse that the multi hit buffs (only 1 of em) will only come if smoke bomb is getting nerfed

also this wasnt only a reply to you but rather my ideas on what needs to change

the thing with smoke bomb , you can also melee hit the enemy while he is in it , making it deal INSANE damage over 5 seconds , it might be more useful in pve but its still probably better than multi hit in pvp

also about multi hit being inescapeable , unless this has been fixed , mage can heal itself in a middle of a multi hit and not take anymore damage from it

also its not just the damage being pretty low , its also the mana cost being the highest in the game , taking half ur mana bar without a water build

 

Tied with Arrow Shield for 10 mana cost at base

 

o ye and that

 

bumping the threadsssss