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World Assassin, Buff?

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Master_NinjasHD, Apr 3, 2016.

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Should Assassin REALLY get a buff?

  1. Yes, Multi hit y u no dmg deal

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  2. Maybe, I need more information

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  3. No, wtf y u make this post we've seen like one million of these

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  1. Master_NinjasHD

    Master_NinjasHD Vertically Challenged HERO

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    Now if your probably the 85% of people who looked at this thread and said, "Oh great. It's another one of these..." then that's fine, I assumed that would happen. If your that 15% to actually look why I believe this needs a buff, then continue reading and you shall see :pp.

    Current Issues (that I/People have with assassin)
    1. Multi Hit got too much of a dmg nerf
    2. Vanish doesn't make you stay invis when swapping over to a potion, causing a loss of -4 mana if you need to recast the spell
    3. Even with the highest DPS in the game, a dexterity build for assassin doesn't cut the dmg

    Those are some of the main issues I, or some other people, have with asssassin. And yes, I have played assassin before. Up to level 89 is what I have currently, so I know how the damage was seriously nerfed. Considering there is Az, a Lv. 74 mythic bow that is used end game, and can deal around 8K bomb spell, maybe even 15K, asssassin doesn't have a weapon like this. Probably the best it has is Hive infused Dagger (old bob's [technically]) or Alazarin/Black, and it doesn't do nearly as much as Bomb spell does with Az, even though none of these are mythics, but I haven't seen a good Thunder mythic for Assassin, heck if there even is one (there probably is, I'm just forgetting it), and because Assassin is supposed to have the highest dmg in the game (5/5, right infront of archer with 4/5) it seems quite odd that it doesnt deal as much as archer does, with the lower stat. Also, Multi hit takes away 10 mana. A whopping 10 mana, poof. Gone. And if you keep missing it, the mana just adds up until you hit -19 Mana. Sure, intelligence covers this, but only down to -4 Mana of what I have seen. Now vanish, the asssassin's "movement" spell. Even though it does give speed 3, you run out of mana. FAST, because you lose mana when you are under the cast of this spell. And sure, there's always cactus assassin, or a dex assassin, but like I said before, it doesn't deal as much as it used to.

    Possible Improvements to Assassin:
    1. Increase the base dmg of Multi hit by 10% > 20%
    2. Add a mythic, but with only Thunder dmg, similar to Az, but with a little less max stats. (Ex. a mythic called "Lightning Bringer" [Made that on the spot] Thunder DMG: 200 > 400)
    3. Let us be able to vanish, and run away without constantly holding the weapon.

    Thanks for reading, if you disagree, tell me why and what I could change, with a reply to this post.
     
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  2. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    how about no?
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    He was prepared.
     
  4. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    doesn't matter if he was prepared or not. It's a kind of shitpost now.
     
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    Kaelan~ RIP VIP

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    There should be a vote "NOOOOOO". because there are no threads asking for the most powerful kit in the game to be buffed...
     
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  6. Defunct Fighter

    Defunct Fighter Famous Adventurer

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    I read the whole thing.
    No.
    Assassin was overpowered before Gavel. Now that it's equal with the other classes, it seems more so people can't utilize him properly rather than him being "bad."
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    Why is it a shitpost?
     
  8. Master_NinjasHD

    Master_NinjasHD Vertically Challenged HERO

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    I was indeed prepared, but I knew something like "NOOOOOO" was going to be an answer xD
     
  9. EJCrusher

    EJCrusher Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Assassin is like snake, but when snake switches to a different thing, his box goes away.
     
  10. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    F*ck no. nonono. I REFUSE to believe this. NOT another friggen buff thread. nononoNONONONONONO. whyyy.
    Because there are so many posts that
    A. say the EXACT. SAME. THING. every time
    B. always suggest ways to just turn the assassin back into pre-gavel sheer OPness, and usually disregard the fact that you're not supposed to be able to solo every boss in the game
    C. almost always points to the archer, talking about how to buff the assassin to that type of power. if anything, archer needs a nerf, because right now assasssin is balanced with warrior and mage
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    Honestly people get a ton of crap for voicing their opinion. Nobody makes a thread so people can hate on them and people telling them their idea sucks balls without any suggestions. I think he does have a valid point with a thunder mythic for assassins because the thunder element was designed for assassins so why not give them a thunder mythic?
     
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  12. Sean__

    Sean__ Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    there are many reasons why there shouldn't be a thunder mythic, but let's not talk about that right now. It is true that he voiced his opinion, but if his opinion is just wrong he will get hate from it, and the reason people dont give their suggestion is because the idea are bad a shouldn't be helped
     
  13. Untitled Doc

    Untitled Doc 1 man robotics team

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    The only think that assassins need for a buff in my opinion is that assassins should get an extra level of jump boost.

    That is the only thing so that people say on every buff assassin thread, "assassins got buffed, be happy it did"
    Pretty much balanced in my opinion
     
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    AttilaTheFoursh Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I would agree that this thread and the many others...are just insane with how they voice them selves about how they should buff the assassin again... but really the assassin is balanced with the warrior/knight and mage/dark wizard, but now the archer is the one who really stands out for being more OP than the others and should be nerfed.

    However my only disclaimer is the fact that with the whole vanishing spell with the assassin it now leaves some sort of smoke particle wherever you stand or walk when vanished. Isn't when vanished... your supposed to be hidden from everything... even from players, because in pvp it will easily stand out to anyone who actually notices a small trail-ish thing of smoke. The only reason I am saying this is because of how every time I thought I was able to tuck away unnoticed in a duel (still when vanished) they come behind me and slaughter me. So it is either them hacking and able to spot me even when invisible(vanished), or the whole point of being vanished isn't working,
     
  15. Sean__

    Sean__ Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    it has always left those particles
     
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    AttilaTheFoursh Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    so your saying that before this update there were a bunch of morons who didn't notice the particle effect and now they finally are?
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    YAAAAY to education
     
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    Kvmilla Goddess of Blood and Devourer of Hearts VIP+

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    You're overreacting buddy. Calm down.
     
  18. flip

    flip Chef HERO

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    Thats because multi-hit was broken and needed to be fixed.

    This I do sorta agree with because you are right when its a waste of -4 mana, so this does need some sort of a rework

    This does make a good argument to buff assassin but things like multi-hit needed a nerf because they were broken before Gavel, but even if the assassin does need a rework, you will have to live with it.
     
  19. Witcher

    Witcher the crappy class suggestions guy

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    stop the corruption, assasin is fine and not underpowered just ebcause it'S now on the same Level with other classes. I plyed now with mage till lvl 94, with ym warrior till lvl 88 and my assasin is Level 70. Now you have to know that I mainsly Play with assasin to get it too on lvl 88 and it isn't too weak! It is fine! It is balanced, just the spells doesn't look too great, but hey, who cares...
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    The only thing i can agree with is the vanish spell, you should not unvanish after you swap the slot, but the other spells are balanced.
    • Spin Attack: Deals good damage and can make mobs blind...
    • Multihit: Can be used to control the enemie (boss fight: trap in on corner)
    • Smok Bomb: Deals decent amount of damage and deals splash damage + its a ranged attack
     
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