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Why The Mage Shouldn't Be Nerfed.

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Jamityjamlol, Mar 4, 2016.

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What do you think of Mage?

  1. Fine as it currently is

    49.4%
  2. Could use a little more power (specify what areas)

    4.7%
  3. Could use a lot more power (specify what areas)

    5.9%
  4. Could be nerfed a little (specify what areas)

    35.3%
  5. Could be nerfed a LOT (specify what areas)

    4.7%
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  1. SeanThomas2

    SeanThomas2 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    There was no need for supports at that time because every other class could do everything very easily without help , so mage wasn't a support back then
     
  2. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    You need magic to stick the bomb on the arrow without either:
    A. Breaking the arrow.
    B. Exploding the bomb.
     
  3. Havelo

    Havelo Random Adventurer

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    I think that heal should be stablized so it heals the same at high health and low health. I would be fine if it healed less then now.
     
  4. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    have you learned nothing?
    *dank wizard
     
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  5. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Haha, haha. It's Dank Wizard. You need caps.
     
  6. Defunct Fighter

    Defunct Fighter Famous Adventurer

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    Why is that quest considered so hard, again? I managed to do it minimal level with 3/4 classes (All except archer)
     
  7. SpicySodette

    SpicySodette Friend? VIP

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    I am wee bit confused. I play as a mage, I'm pretty OP. I would play with my bro, who was a higher level and an archer, and I would pwn!
     
  8. Moe_Ronickah

    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    Is your brother younger than you? Do you have legendary armor and weapons, and his are basic or unique? Are your stats setup better than his for pvp? There are so many things that can affect this, that your observation really needs some basic facts, first.
     
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  9. The One-eyed Guy

    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    Have you tried it again? Their damage is infuriating, in the Owl runthrough the fall damage sucks up a potion or otherwise immediately puts you at a disadvantage against the boss.
     
  10. Kraby

    Kraby *insert clever meme* VIP+

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    why is that on general suggestions tho?
    well said ;3

    the thing about mage is , you can debuff your enemies
    they cant debuff you
    you have one of the highest damage abilities that comboes well with your other ones (ice snake+meteor)
    and you can heal a ton of health
    and while your defense is a bit low (80%) its still not the worst in the game and the heal more than makes up for it
     
  11. CraterHater

    CraterHater A very magical mage! HERO

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    I think the buffs the mage received in the Gavel Update are very good and shouldn't be nerfed. I mean, Magic is supposed to be a little powerful right? Before the Gavel Update it was just horrible how people responded when saying: "Mage needs a buff", they said: "Its a support class" Who wants to be support... I mean its fun playing with your friends but as grinding takes ages and your friends aren't always around I think it should be a class of its own, as powerful as the rest, no need for a nerf.
     
  12. Heylo

    Heylo Semi Retired Vet of Wynn CHAMPION

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    In my opinion it is so that the only people who are allowed to complain are Mages them selfs, because we are the players who were told: "you can't even deal damage" , or, "you're just a supporter ".
    Yes the Heal spell / Remedy Spell is kind of OP but every class has an OP spell the Archer got the Arrow storm which can be a big game changer in Boss fights, the Warrior got the War Scream which not only pushes the opponent away but also makes damage , and the Assasin.... well ok the Assasin needs a buff.

    Edit: @Slimeonatree57 said as an Assasin that the Smoke Bomb is very strong with an Agility build so in my opinion there is no clear op class
     
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  13. Jamityjamlol

    Jamityjamlol Well-Known Adventurer

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    I agree with this ^^^^
     
  14. Agent17

    Agent17 Love me some aesthetics

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    Holy shit thank you, just thank you man.
     
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  15. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Smoke bomb. Add agility. I soloed amadel in less then 10 minutes at level 70.
     
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    The defense is better than archers and mages can heal themselves.
     
  17. Paradoxical

    Paradoxical Machina Infinitum VIP

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    To the people that say, "It's a support class, it shouldn't have good damage"...

    The point of the gavel update's new item and skill systems was to make any class usable for any playstyle. Why then do you want to force a class to only use one playstyle? The definition in general of a mage is a magic user, not a healer. If you want a pure support class, then go design a cleric class suggestion or something... Anyway, I do agree that heal is a bit too strong, my point is that to label a class as one role and one roll only is shortsighted.
     
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  18. Witcher

    Witcher the crappy class suggestions guy

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    They mostly do very good alone?
     
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  19. Zyrbaiakor

    Zyrbaiakor From the Shadows VIP+

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    I agree with this, but the archer definitely cannot adapt to any playstyle. That class has spells focused on agility and damage. Since 1/2 of the quests put you in small caves or other narrow areas, the agility goes out the window. Damage is decent (when using spells) but the archer will die before then if they have a low defense stat.

    I don't know why people say the bomb arrow does a lot of damage. It certainly doesn't with level 50-53 bows at level 50-53.
     
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