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Why The Mage Shouldn't Be Nerfed.

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Jamityjamlol, Mar 4, 2016.

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What do you think of Mage?

  1. Fine as it currently is

    49.4%
  2. Could use a little more power (specify what areas)

    4.7%
  3. Could use a lot more power (specify what areas)

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  4. Could be nerfed a little (specify what areas)

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  5. Could be nerfed a LOT (specify what areas)

    4.7%
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  1. Jamityjamlol

    Jamityjamlol Well-Known Adventurer

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    Ok, I've been on Wynncraft a while now and I have been playing since around 6-7 months before the Gavel update. As anyone who played before the update is aware, the Mage class was the WORST out of the 4. I remember I would be spamming spells trying to kill things and then my Archer friend would come along (same level as me) and one shot it. Now when the Gavel update came out, I was glad to be able to do so much damage! But now everyone is saying that it needs to be nerfed? I mean look at the Archer, that was already overpowered and it got a small boost as well with the new update. In short, I've been waiting ages for the Mage to actually do some damage. Please don't nerf it. Thanks.
     
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  2. Cubie

    Cubie VIP+

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    The only reason Mage "is" OP, is because of his Healing ability. I feel like Assassin needs a slight buff, and the Heal needs a slight nerf.
     
  3. Squidwarb

    Squidwarb Well-Known Adventurer

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    Am I your archer friend? :tearsofjoy:
    And anyway about the mage, I don't think it should be doing so much damage compared to the archer or any other class anyway, it's for support. The heal ability is pretty OP on it as well.
     
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    yosteric5 The Builder of walls VIP+

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    I feel like mage is fine as it is, The Damage makes up for the lack defense.
     
  5. SeemsLegit

    SeemsLegit waffles are just pancakes, but with abs HERO

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    They should up the defense a little if they're not fixing vanish.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    The mage wasn't weak in the last update. It did it's job perfectly. The thing is, it's job is Support, not fighting.
     
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  7. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    Having the ability to play a support role doesn't mean the class should be designated as only being able to do that. It's not a support class, it's the class that has the best ability to support. Like full support classes deal very little damage, and do nothing but heal/buff allies. I don't feel that's what a Mage is for
     
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  8. Agent17

    Agent17 Love me some aesthetics

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    It's actually casting spells. (like Meteor)
     
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  9. The One-eyed Guy

    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    Then you didn't understand the Mage from the start.
    Before the update, the Mage was certainly not the worst. It's main job is the janitor. He sweeps up whatever mess his/her teammates make. Or you can make the mess yourself. Mage is actually pretty insane. Your basic attack can go through walls and hit multiple enemies at once. Every attack is AoE. Heal actually allows you to be one of the most versatile classes in the game. Do you really need defense when you can just get back all the health you would lose? Frankly I'm not sure how you were having trouble killing mobs, you most likely had a bad weapon; I remember that before the update it was almost a breeze to do a lot of the quests at the lowest level. I'm still having trouble with Troubled Tribesmen on my Warrior when I did it first try at the minimum level on Mage.
    The Mage's damage was also not even a major facet of the buff. In fact I doubt many people even noticed it. It's the heal spell. Have you tried it yet? It cures all fire, which now actually hurts you, still heals six or so hearts, and gives you a couple seconds of aftershock to boot.
    So what I'm saying is...
    That's not how the Mage works.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    No, it's not. All the classes cast spells. The Mage class was designed as a support class, not a fighter.
     
  11. Agent17

    Agent17 Love me some aesthetics

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    I mean the playstyle is more focused on spells. Mage's spell have lots of versatility and goddamn the meteor
     
  12. Cubie

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    This is where you are incorrect.
    The Heal spell makes up for your lack of Defense (or at least mostly), the Damage is just Bonus.
     
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    Enderman1234 Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    The damage is fine, the heal is ridiculous. Lower the heal or increase the mana cost or a mix
     
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    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Nerf Mage heals HEALING, not MANA. If you nerf the mana its still op, nerf the healing its ok. (Im a mage)
     
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  15. Witcher

    Witcher the crappy class suggestions guy

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    Problem is that you have to fight in wynn
     
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  16. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Choose another class or party up. How do you think Support classes survive in other MMORPGs?
     
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  17. Moe_Ronickah

    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    "The mage was designed as a support class." Yes, yes it was. It was. Was is the operative word. So now, mages are actually masters of magic, as they should be. Mages are the masters of magic. Every one of their spells should be more powerful than the spells of other classes, by comparison. Mages should be weaker in defense, as they are not trained in physical combat, but not so weak as to be soft targets. All of the spell attacks of other classes rely on spells, magic. Are some of you saying that a mage's magic should be weaker than the magic of a physical combat class? Why don't you decry the insane speed boost that archers can achieve? Why don't you decry the war scream and charge that warriors have, because those are based on magic? Do you really believe that a warrior is more competent at magic than a mage? Should an archer's arrow bomb even exist in any way close to what it is, since it means that archers are better at ranged magic than mages?

    If you want mages to be a support class, only, then come up with a new name and new abilities for them, because nerfing them as heavily as some of you want, means that they shouldn't be called masters of magic. Better yet, make a fifth class for what you perceive as a mage: healer. Healer has massive healing power, can tp 2 to 3 times the distance mages can, and has no defense from whatever armor it is wearing. After all, armor defense isn't based on magical properties, is it? Oh, and because healers are physicians, they have no ability to fight, whatsoever. They can't use any spells in combat, at all. You see, that's what a healer is, but not what a mage is.

    If Gavel is an evolutionary update, then why are so many people decrying mages finally having evolutionary changes such that they are finally masters of magic?
     
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    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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  19. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius CHAMPION

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    Eh, the mages don't bother me, I don't bother the mages. We both get on happily playing Wynncraft.

    I also like Archer's Arrow Bomb since I just imagine it as the arrow bombs from LoZ that's literally a bomb stuck on the end of an arrow, instead of magic.
     
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  20. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    If I wanted to be a support class, I would be a cleric, not a MAGE. Or even better, a DARK WIZARD
     
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