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Why Assassin Doesn't Need A Buff

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Mistrise Mystic, Feb 27, 2016.

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Do you agree? Why or why not?

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  2. No

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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Ok, so how do I say this?

    Assassins do NOT need a buff. In fact, it is still one of the most powerful classes in the game. just like any other class, it has it's pros and cons.

    Pros:
    High dps. In fact, it has the highest dps in the game.
    Strong spells-smoke bomb and spin attack are among the best in the game, spin attack being a cheap and high-damaging attack move and smoke bomb having the benifits of slowing down and dealing a lot of damage to anyone in range
    Fast walk speed- Chakram + level3 vanish. I am faster than a black horse with that combo.

    Cons:
    Mana heavy
    Short range-smoke bomb is the only ranged spell (though i feel like the class info is slightly inaccurate, as it DEFINITELY has more range then the warrior)

    However, the pros FAR outweigh the cons. So why do so many people say it needs a buff? Because, like a lot of other people say, the people complaining aren't using him like they should. The assassin is a stealth based class, but most people still use it as a brute force class. So my advice to the people saying assassin needs a buff: don't treat it as the same class as before. Unlike before, the class requires a lot of patience to use. Before, you could just rush down an opponent; there was no need for strategy as the assassin could OHKO most opponents. However the new strategy is much more complex (at least for me). Now, the assassin is about tricking your opponent into panicking, using hit and runs, strategic smoke bombs and blinding them with spin attack. So because i want to shut up the people complaining about assassin, here are some tips:

    -know the map. Finding a place to hide and regen mana is essential, as it allows you to regain mana after vanishing. Also, shadow travel can be used to suprise the opponent when they think they are safe (I've been accused of hacking a few times because I found a way up to the hourglass in Detlas by parkouring across rooftops.)
    - always keep enough mana to vanish away
    -only use multihit to push enemies away, or in a certain direction. Use spin attack in all other situations, as two spin attacks deals around 1 3/4 the damage of multihit, removes any positive buffs an opponent has, applies them to you, blinds/slows opponents, and has more range, for only 2 more mana than a multihit (assuming you put no points into intelligence)
    -finally, use smoke bomb to freak out opponents if you are in a secure hiding spot- for example, if someone is in range and stops to talk, throw a smoke bomb and laugh as they swing wildly and spam spells because they think they are under attack. It wastes mana and freaks people out, as well as dealing a decent amount of damage.

    So that was my rant against people saying assassin needs a buff, as well as a guide on using the assassin. And before someone says this is the general suggestions part of the forum, I do know that; I am generally suggesting people to stop saying assassin needs a buff. (That pun was awful. I am so sorry. I'll just leave now...)
     
  2. satbyccdoerfe

    satbyccdoerfe some random golem CHAMPION

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    Lol first assassin-no buff thread xD
     
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  3. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    I think it is the second. It's the first to be both a rant and a guide though so yeah.
     
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    satbyccdoerfe some random golem CHAMPION

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    Ok ;P
     
  5. stop

    stop Well-Known Adventurer

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    I just hate the mobility of the class though. XD
    Assassin is perfectly fine except for the vanish. lel

    (MANA DRAIN! F YOU!!!!)
     
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  6. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    That's what horses and telescrolls are for. Even though I use a brown horse and only use telescrolls to travel between provinces
     
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    ohwooops Not Very Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    It has high dps, but if you're in the ice caves with a Mage grinding, the Mage gets 70% of the kills because of that op as fuck meteor. Assassin needs the mana regen vanish fix, but Mage really needs a bloody nerf
     
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  8. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    The vanish regen nerf is intentional. Just don't spam it. Use it, find a place to hide, regain mana, wait for the opponent to come close, vanish, attack (with spells, but not spamming them), vanish, hide, rinse and repeat
     
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    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Oh yeh. I play as mage, and it is not as OP as you think. First off meteor is SLOWWW, its good for grinding but to hit a boss you need to ice snake it, so it takes more mana then you think. Mages also have the lowest auto attack. Heck you can even say that archers arrow storm is Op, or Warriors uppercut is op. Its not as OP as you think. Though Mages Tp is quite good, and may be a bit OP
     
  10. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius

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    If people really have a yearning for the old ways of Assassin, I found a way of getting it like that.

    JOAT (Jack of All Trades) Build - About 30 Points in each skill + Blue Mask. I acted the same as I always did and found that nothing had changed. You can tank, hit hard and, if you need mana, equip regen gear.
     
  11. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Interesting. I use an air assassin build, and I find combat just as good as before too. Though I won't say nothing changed.... Yeah nothing really changed, i just walk a lot faster :)
     
  12. MajesticMaj

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    Nah mage doesn't need a nerf at all, all classes are balanced & Assassin just has a different gameplay, if Mage got nerfed archers would be the first pick of anyone & you're also eliminating the best support class. Even now a level80+ archer can 1 shot my level93 Mage in a duel if they have the correct build.
     
  13. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    I got ohkoed by a level 33 archer as a level 50 warrior. Wtf.
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    On the topic of archer needs a nerf. I was giving an example
     
  14. ohwooops

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    Once I say 'nerf mage' shit goes down. A meteor with high spell gear and a good wand can go up to 21k dam, my multihit right now (lvl 94 with high spell gear) does 11k. As maj just said, it's the best 'support class.' I just want to emphasize the word 'support' as mage can heal but they also do the most damage of all classes. Archer does very high damage, but they take a lot of damage. Warrior is slow, but does strong attacks and has the highest def. Assassin is fast and does pretty good damage, but has short range and mana problems. Mage can be fast, has good range and also does the highest damage. I'm not saying to completely nerf the class, but to nerf the meteor damage and heal a bit. If you're grinding as assassin in the ice caves, I can assure you that mage will get most of the kills, and your dps isn't fast enough to kill most mobs before their meteor drops. I'm talking from personal experience. Right now mage is the first pick for everyone starting a class because of how op it is compared to other classes, especially warrior. And no, archer's arrow storm and warrior's uppercut has nothing to meteor right now.
     
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    No, archers do the most damage out of all the classes, & archers get most the kills in grinding areas I can assure you that. Also Mage cannot deal 21k damage as I can only deal 17-18k
     
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    ohwooops Not Very Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I haven't been with many archers in the ice caves, so I don't really know what they're like there. All I know is that I can survive an arrow storm (probably agility) but a meteor from a lvl 74 can one shot me. (if my agility doesn't work) And the heal means they don't have to use any health pots, which takes up a lot of inv space for all the other classes.
     
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    I have a level87 archer & a level75 hunter & I can say they really do ks a lot.. more than mages. Mages actually in 1.13 & lower had the hardest time grinding/farming as they were the worst & only got killstolen by others.
     
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    ohwooops Not Very Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Yeah that's true, but that was the past. It doesn't matter now. I personally would like a small mage nerf, and you don't. Archer can easily one shot, but they are prone to taking the most damage as well. I respect your opinion, but I think we should just leave the conversation at that :3
     
  19. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Yeah, this thread is about assassin buffing (technically), this argument should have it's own thread
     
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    ohwooops Not Very Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I can imagine the alerts you got :P
     
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