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World {✣} Neutral Defense {✣} (+fire Defense Suggestion)

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Cruuk, Jan 31, 2016.

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  1. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Hi

    One of the many things the Gavel update introduced was elemental defense, elemental damage, and elemental weakness, many mobs have these elemental properties, for example:

    A mob does Water damage, and also has defensive properties towards Water as well, but having a weakness towards the Thunder element.

    But... One thing that has bugged me ever since Gavel released was the lack of Neutral properties other than damage.

    Now, before you say "But Neutral isn't even an element!", you have a point, but hear me out, I see Neutral energy as pure energy not influenced by outside forces, pure power that doesn't need assistance from the other elements. (Unless powders change that, but we don't know that yet.)

    I'm sure you're asking "What mobs would have Neutral defense?"

    Well...

    To me, it would make the most sense for mobs wearing armor to have Neutral defense, protection against the ✣Neutral damage from weapons, here's an example of a mob with Neutral defense:

    Undead Armored Knight [Lv. 66]
    [✤Weak ✣Def]
    You can also apply this Neutral defense to Helpful mobs like Iron Golems or any of a town's mercenaries wearing armor!

    And...

    Why limit ourselves to only Neutral Defense? Why not give some mobs Neutral Weakness as well! More examples:

    Frail Earth Fairy [Lv. 71]
    [✣Weak Dam ✦Def]
    This weakness could mainly be applied to frail mobs that can't take too many hits, even a regular normal weapon will hurt them pretty badly.

    [NOTE: Since elements usually counter another element, I'm sure you're also asking "What would Neutral counter, and what would it be weak to?" Well, Neutral, is well, Neutral, It is not super effective against other elements, nor is it weak against other elements.]

    Now here is where things get a little complicated...

    On the topic of Neutral damage for mobs...

    If Neutral damage was applied to mobs, you'd have to give almost every single mob in the game a [✣Dam ] symbol.
    The way I see it, if a mob does both Air and Neutral damage, you could possibly have the damage displayed as [❋✣Dam ]
    But, if a mob only does Neutral damage, Neutral damage will not be displayed there...
    I'll need an explanation from a GM or higher for this topic, because one thing I'm wondering is: Does Qira do Neutral damage?

    Misc.
    Mobs that have Fire Defense, should be fully immune to the effects of fire and lava, because to me, it makes no damn sense that a Fleris is burning to death in lava...
     
  2. GentleProphet

    GentleProphet Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I didn't quite read it all, but I really like how it looks.
    You basically add kinda of a new element into the game. I like it, it's also a good suggestion, as well as the format of it.
     
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  3. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Oh no I forgot the poll...
    There we go, we're good.
     
  4. Flubby

    Flubby left and accidentally became leftist VIP+

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    Neutral defense = Health...
     
  5. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Good point, but I wanted to make something for armored mobs, like, a mob with iron armor only has defense towards water, like, wouldn't the iron armor slowly rust in the water, I'm not sure if there's any mob like that, but you know what I mean...
     
  6. Esfores

    Esfores In and Out of Existence

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    Neutral damage is meant to be a safety net for fighting enemies that are resistant to your main elements, nothing can be weak to it, but nothing can defend it either
     
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  7. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    You know..... Maybe I didn't think this through all the way..... I might as well keep this up for more opinions.
     
  8. Shanaaro

    Shanaaro . HERO

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    Neutral's only saving point is nothing resisting it. Otherwise it'd be really UP because no stats give +Neutral Damage.
     
  9. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Seems legit. I was wondering why we don't have generic neutral defense.

    +1 from me
     
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