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The Level Cap Has Been Raised, How About Some New Spell Upgrades? [200+ Supporters]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by reedico, Dec 22, 2015.

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Yes spells are very cool and need to fill up the levels

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Yes but... (comment below)

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no thanks man we already got enough spells (i prefer boring high levels xd)

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no this is um terribad idea.

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I like this idea, it feels like more to work towards then hit lvl 75 and just grind for endgame armor.

Ckrypto, Jan 27, 2016

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I think shrapnel should shoot arrows out from the explosion that deal 100% damage (100% of your weapons damage)

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I love this idea +1 (I want dat meteor buff badly)

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As stated before many times, backstab should be nerfed or just not be able to be used AGAINST BOSSES ONLY. Seems fine for regular mobs. Mob jump also seems a little op for travelling, maybe set a range on where it could be used? (like only within 20 blocks) Purification smoke also needs to be changed to a percentage of HP, seeing as hearts heal differently for people. Double jump with archer escape can already be done if spammed enough. Gaseous cloud seems a little OP, as a little spam and mana build would make mages practically untouchable. Encouragement on war scream for warrior's time needs to be decreased to 1-2 minutes. Please consider and if the changes I suggested seem fine, change the original post a little.
Other than that, the others seem pretty fine and balanced, and I love this idea. +1 supporter @reedico

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I grant +5 Diamond Stars to you for a great suggestion.
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Bruh i agree all the way especial for the warior upgrade but the levels for them could be differnet :/ +1 supporter

Potatoman2507, Jan 28, 2016

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Agreed completely.
This suggestion is very well thought out.

Cingle, Jan 28, 2016

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abalabahahaP said: ↑

As stated before many times, backstab should be nerfed or just not be able to be used AGAINST BOSSES ONLY. Seems fine for regular mobs. Mob jump also seems a little op for travelling, maybe set a range on where it could be used? (like only within 20 blocks) Purification smoke also needs to be changed to a percentage of HP, seeing as hearts heal differently for people. Double jump with archer escape can already be done if spammed enough. Gaseous cloud seems a little OP, as a little spam and mana build would make mages practically untouchable. Encouragement on war scream for warrior's time needs to be decreased to 1-2 minutes. Please consider and if the changes I suggested seem fine, change the original post a little.
Other than that, the others seem pretty fine and balanced, and I love this idea. +1 supporter @reedico
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I've just applied a few nerfs to some of these abilities, which includes Gaseous cloud (less time), Encouragement (less time) and Backstab (lessened effectiveness against bosses).

reedico, Jan 29, 2016

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I love the idea it's very Kyle ;)

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reedico said: ↑

First things first: PLEASE tell me if new spell upgrades have already been announced, so I can shut up

Anyway, now that the level cap has been raised, the last spell upgrade you get (level 66) is only about 2/3 of the way to the level cap (though in terms of xp requirements, it's not even half). What we need for a follow-up update is A FOURTH or FIFTH spell upgrade.

Now here are some suggestions for possible spell upgrades (4th/5th)base stats will only be listed if they are changed

Assassin(Ninja):

Spin Attack:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
+Gash: Enemies hit will bleed for 20% base damage each second for 4 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Second Spin: Immediately after your first spin, you will perform a second spin in the other direction for 75% damage

Vanish:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Backstab: Any enemy that is hit from behind while vanished will take 175% damage and lose 15% of their current health. This ability has only 1 third effectiveness against bosses (5%).

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
Duration: 20 seconds
+Mob Jump: While vanished, if you sneak and look at an enemy for 2 seconds, you will teleport 1 block behind that enemy and reduce your time for vanish by 3 seconds.

Multihit:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Bomb planter: If an enemy dies from multihit, it will explode (radius: 3.5 blocks) for 110% damage to all enemies within the radius

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Deteriorate: If an enemy survives multihit, it will recieve slow 1, weak 1, and takes 20% more damage (negative resistance) for 5 seconds

Smoke Bomb:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Singularity: Enemies within 2.5 blocks of smoke bomb will be slightly pulled inward for the first 3 seconds of the bomb's existence

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
Duration: 6 seconds
+Purification Smoke: Walking into your own smoke grants 1 heart/second and 30% damage reduction

Archer(Hunter):

Arrow Storm:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
+Injection: For every arrow that hits an enemy, 0.3% Current Health damage is dealt to the enemy, 3.5 seconds after the spell is cast

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Lead Arrows: Another 3 arrows are shot at the end of the spell (down the middle) which deal 40% damage each

Escape:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Minelayer: Lays down a mine where the escape spell was cast, which explodes on contact with an enemy for 75% damage. Mines last for up to 15 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Double jump: Escape can be recast midair one time for 75% of the original velocity

Bomb Arrow:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Shrapnel: There is an increased explosion radius of 3 blocks which does 125% damage rather than 250%

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Heavy Bomb: A direct hit with bomb arrow does 350% damage

Arrow Shield:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Arrow wheel: Shoots 16 arrows outward in a circle from around the player in all directions which deal 100% damage each

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
+Slam: Enemies knocked into a wall will take 75% damage

Mage(Dark Wizard)

Heal:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
Hunger: 5
+Stand Away: All enemies within the heal radius take a medium amount of knockback that launches them ~3 blocks back

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Gaseous Cloud: A cloud with a radius of 2 blocks is put around the player for 2 seconds (the cloud does not move with the player), which prevents all mobs and projectiles from coming inside and deals 30% damage and knockback to all mobs that touch it.

Teleport:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Blink: Maximum teleport distance is increased and invisibility is granted for 2 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Recall: an entity is placed where you teleported from, and if the player sneaks and puts their cursor on it for 1 second, they will be teleported back to the location with no mana cost and slash damage is dealt again. The entity lasts 6 seconds

Meteore:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Shock: 50% damage is instantly dealt to the area where the spell is cast, and blinds enemies for 1 second (or until the meteore hits)

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
Damage: 420%
+Tremendous Impact: Radius of the explosion is increased by 2 blocks

Ice Snake:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82:
+Icy trail: Leaves a trail of icy ground which lasts for 5 seconds, gives slow 2 the entire time an enemy is standing on it, and deals 20% damage per second

Upgrade 5 @ level 92:
+Iceburn: After the ice snake dissipates, the entire icy trail bursts into flames for half a second, dealing %50 true damage over 2 seconds

Warrior(Knight)

Bash:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
Damage: 150%
+Fissure: The second explosion's radius is greatly increased to the sides, by 5 blocks.

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+After Shock: The second explosion (Earthquake) explodes again after 1 second for 100% damage

Charge:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Impact: When the player hits the ground, they trigger a small explosion which deals 130% damage

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Leap: Initial cast launches the player 1.5 blocks higher and Charge now has greater velocity. Smash now hits enemies below the player as well.

Uppercut:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Spinning: Uppercut's initial cast now has a hitbox that goes in a 180 degree angle in front of the warrior.

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Asteroid: Firework and Comet now damage other enemies within a radius of 6 blocks for half their damage

War Scream:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Ear Piercing: Gives nearby enemies slow 1, weak 1, and take 20% more damage for 4 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
+Encouragement: Gives the player and nearby allies increased attack speed for 3 minutes

Thats all I have to suggest for now. Though of course if these were to be implemented they would need further balancing AND certain in game items would need balance related tweaks. Thank for reading this post and share ideas and criticism down below.

EDIT: I put the level requirements in a fairly messy fashion as a way to make upgrades more consistent, rather than getting two or three upgrades at a time every 10/15 levels. However, these level requirements just like the suggestions themselves are very much subject to change.

Edit/Changelog 1 as of January 29th: Added in Iceburn upgrade to ice snake, as there had been no level 5 upgrade previously. Also nerfed Encouragement, Gaseous cloud, and Backstab.
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Seems to be a little bit OP in duels and the Nether. But then again, you earned it fair and square (Hopefully). I like it!

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reedico said: ↑

First things first: PLEASE tell me if new spell upgrades have already been announced, so I can shut up

Anyway, now that the level cap has been raised, the last spell upgrade you get (level 66) is only about 2/3 of the way to the level cap (though in terms of xp requirements, it's not even half). What we need for a follow-up update is A FOURTH or FIFTH spell upgrade.

Now here are some suggestions for possible spell upgrades (4th/5th)base stats will only be listed if they are changed

Assassin(Ninja):

Spin Attack:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
+Gash: Enemies hit will bleed for 20% base damage each second for 4 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Second Spin: Immediately after your first spin, you will perform a second spin in the other direction for 75% damage

Vanish:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Backstab: Any enemy that is hit from behind while vanished will take 175% damage and lose 15% of their current health. This ability has only 1 third effectiveness against bosses (5%).

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
Duration: 20 seconds
+Mob Jump: While vanished, if you sneak and look at an enemy for 2 seconds, you will teleport 1 block behind that enemy and reduce your time for vanish by 3 seconds.

Multihit:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Bomb planter: If an enemy dies from multihit, it will explode (radius: 3.5 blocks) for 110% damage to all enemies within the radius

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Deteriorate: If an enemy survives multihit, it will recieve slow 1, weak 1, and takes 20% more damage (negative resistance) for 5 seconds

Smoke Bomb:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Singularity: Enemies within 2.5 blocks of smoke bomb will be slightly pulled inward for the first 3 seconds of the bomb's existence

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
Duration: 6 seconds
+Purification Smoke: Walking into your own smoke grants 1 heart/second and 30% damage reduction

Archer(Hunter):

Arrow Storm:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
+Injection: For every arrow that hits an enemy, 0.3% Current Health damage is dealt to the enemy, 3.5 seconds after the spell is cast

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Lead Arrows: Another 3 arrows are shot at the end of the spell (down the middle) which deal 40% damage each

Escape:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Minelayer: Lays down a mine where the escape spell was cast, which explodes on contact with an enemy for 75% damage. Mines last for up to 15 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Double jump: Escape can be recast midair one time for 75% of the original velocity

Bomb Arrow:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Shrapnel: There is an increased explosion radius of 3 blocks which does 125% damage rather than 250%

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Heavy Bomb: A direct hit with bomb arrow does 350% damage

Arrow Shield:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Arrow wheel: Shoots 16 arrows outward in a circle from around the player in all directions which deal 100% damage each

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
+Slam: Enemies knocked into a wall will take 75% damage

Mage(Dark Wizard)

Heal:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
Hunger: 5
+Stand Away: All enemies within the heal radius take a medium amount of knockback that launches them ~3 blocks back

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+Gaseous Cloud: A cloud with a radius of 2 blocks is put around the player for 2 seconds (the cloud does not move with the player), which prevents all mobs and projectiles from coming inside and deals 30% damage and knockback to all mobs that touch it.

Teleport:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Blink: Maximum teleport distance is increased and invisibility is granted for 2 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Recall: an entity is placed where you teleported from, and if the player sneaks and puts their cursor on it for 1 second, they will be teleported back to the location with no mana cost and slash damage is dealt again. The entity lasts 6 seconds

Meteore:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Shock: 50% damage is instantly dealt to the area where the spell is cast, and blinds enemies for 1 second (or until the meteore hits)

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
Damage: 420%
+Tremendous Impact: Radius of the explosion is increased by 2 blocks

Ice Snake:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82:
+Icy trail: Leaves a trail of icy ground which lasts for 5 seconds, gives slow 2 the entire time an enemy is standing on it, and deals 20% damage per second

Upgrade 5 @ level 92:
+Iceburn: After the ice snake dissipates, the entire icy trail bursts into flames for half a second, dealing %50 true damage over 2 seconds

Warrior(Knight)

Bash:
Upgrade 4 @ level 51
Damage: 150%
+Fissure: The second explosion's radius is greatly increased to the sides, by 5 blocks.

Upgrade 5 @ level 61
+After Shock: The second explosion (Earthquake) explodes again after 1 second for 100% damage

Charge:
Upgrade 4 @ level 64
+Impact: When the player hits the ground, they trigger a small explosion which deals 130% damage

Upgrade 5 @ level 76
+Leap: Initial cast launches the player 1.5 blocks higher and Charge now has greater velocity. Smash now hits enemies below the player as well.

Uppercut:
Upgrade 4 @ level 71
+Spinning: Uppercut's initial cast now has a hitbox that goes in a 180 degree angle in front of the warrior.

Upgrade 5 @ level 86
+Asteroid: Firework and Comet now damage other enemies within a radius of 6 blocks for half their damage

War Scream:
Upgrade 4 @ level 82
+Ear Piercing: Gives nearby enemies slow 1, weak 1, and take 20% more damage for 4 seconds

Upgrade 5 @ level 92
+Encouragement: Gives the player and nearby allies increased attack speed for 3 minutes

Thats all I have to suggest for now. Though of course if these were to be implemented they would need further balancing AND certain in game items would need balance related tweaks. Thank for reading this post and share ideas and criticism down below.

EDIT: I put the level requirements in a fairly messy fashion as a way to make upgrades more consistent, rather than getting two or three upgrades at a time every 10/15 levels. However, these level requirements just like the suggestions themselves are very much subject to change.

Edit/Changelog 1 as of January 29th: Added in Iceburn upgrade to ice snake, as there had been no level 5 upgrade previously. Also nerfed Encouragement, Gaseous cloud, and Backstab.
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needs some improvements but its amazing.

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I like it!

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Minelayer for archer seems kinda meh. I believe there is a different upgrade that would be more suited:

Shockwave- enemies damaged by the surprise strike will take 200% knockback away from the player.

Red_Fox_Rogue, Feb 7, 2016

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reedico said: ↑

Damage: 420%
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Pairjax, Feb 7, 2016

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I support this, the ideas are really good!

Baezingashinga, Feb 8, 2016

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I like the idea :)

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