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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by CoffeeBuzz77, Dec 7, 2015.

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  1. CoffeeBuzz77

    CoffeeBuzz77 Travelled Adventurer

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    We have been discussing VIP perks on a seperate thread. On that topic we have been specifically discussing XP bombs and related effects.

    I would like to suggest a few other VIP perks that could help promote the sell of the VIP and VIP+ packages.

    • VIP+ mage vendors that can Teleport VIP+ from one town to another for a cost. Anyone can already do this if they buy scrolls ahead of time, having VIP+ players able to use in town merchant to go to any other teleport merchant and not carry scrolls would just be a convenience perk, and I think in time would help sell VIP+ packs.
    • The ability to use summon stones put in key areas of the world. Two VIP+ can summon any other VIP or VIP+ at the stone. This would prevent abuse of a TPA command allowing player TP only in predefined locations. Again helping sell VIP packages, and as the world grows in size this will become even more desirable.
    • In game mail for VIP. put little post boxes so you can leave messages for your friends in game. Without getting into forums. Everyone would need access to read mail, but VIP and VIP+ could send new mail
    • Special quests chains available for VIP and VIP+ (does not break eula as its currently written. Exp and emerald are available though several methods of play)
     
  2. SuperTM

    SuperTM Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I really like the idea of teleporters in the citys! it would be really usefull and non vips would see how easy those things are and want to buy the vip+ rank. extra content and quests for vips would be cool too. like a small little province with like 1 city where vips can do like 5/10 extra quests and have some farm spots.
     
  3. The One-eyed Guy

    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    I do like this idea. It stays in the boundaries of the EULA and I think it wouldn't affect gameplay too much.
     
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  4. Moe_Ronickah

    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    I agree with all of your ideas, above, CoffeeBuzz77, except for the one that I've quoted, above. I can't really make up my mind on that one. On the one hand, it makes a clear separation of in-game story line between non-donors and donors, which I don't like. On the other hand, it may work out to be a fair incentive to make up someone's mind to donate, and therefore get to access those quests. As in all things that are implemented in a game, it could be changed, if need be, to allow everyone access to any and all of the donor quests. It's an interesting idea.
     
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  5. DarkSamus9000

    DarkSamus9000 What do I put here? VIP+

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    1. Teleporting from town to town - although this definitely might be useful, I don't support it. If you need to be somewhere, travel there by horse or stock up on TP scrolls in your bank. Enjoy the beauty of the province.
    2. Summoning stones - for the same reason as above, I don't support this.
    3. Mailboxes - This is a good idea and a feature that every server should have. On the other hand, I don't think it should be VIP only.
    4. Special chained quests - Can you explain what you mean by this? Do you mean multi-part quests only for donators?

    Also, I'm sure all but #3 break the EULA.
     
  6. BlahBlah161616

    BlahBlah161616 Light Theme User

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    Ok, so this ruins the server and breaks the EULA. For example, in what way does teleporting from town to town without paying like other members have to, in both soul points and emeralds, not break the EULA. Also, the stones is basically a tpa, which is not cosmetic and gives an advantage, breaking the EULA. In addition, giving more quests to just donators is also a EULA breaker because of the additional rewards.

    Basically, if something is not cosmetic that comes with a rank, it is against the EULA.
     
  7. flip

    flip Chef HERO

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    Wow. You broke EULA atleast 4 times. While most of these are good ideas, it goes against EULA.
     
  8. Francis12qwasyx

    Francis12qwasyx Hacker Extraordinaire VIP

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    Salted has already brought double xp for VIPs into discussion, so i can say with about 99% sureness that wynn doesnt really care for EULA that much anymore. Therefore i guess we can drop complaining about EULA breakages.

    As for the ideas, i support all but #4.
    #4 if implemented would need to have quests and rewards chosen with care, because for one, you dont want VIPs a lot richer than npn-VIPs just because theyve payed money for a rank, and you also dont want to leave out really good game content for non-VIPs because... well its just unfair?
     
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  9. MidnightSeishin

    MidnightSeishin Creator Elemental of Shadow, Infinity and Magic CHAMPION

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    i agree with this idea
     
  10. BlahBlah161616

    BlahBlah161616 Light Theme User

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    If Wynncraft breaks the EULA they could get in major legal trouble with Mojang, this could involve the shutting down of Wynncraft and also Wynncraft could be sued for all it's money. Basically, Wynncraft will follow the EULA.
     
  11. Francis12qwasyx

    Francis12qwasyx Hacker Extraordinaire VIP

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    Did you not read what i said? Salted (The owner of wynncraft) has openly discussed giving double xp for VIPs. Theres a thread on it.
    Also, EULA is not enforced.
     
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    -- The world's most popular Minecraft server

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    Mojang doesn't enforce the EULA. They don't give two shits about it. Wynncraft won't be sued for all its money.
    Think about it... Would you rather lose a portion of your fan base and gain a few thousand dollars or keep that fan base?
     
  13. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Well who knows, maybe Salted/Grian would rather have a loving fan base than a couple more k dollars.

    Probably not.

    As for the suggestion, it's not bad, but I feel some of these would work just fine as standard additions to the game rather than VIP/VIP+ only perks. I mean, yeah, the EULA's not really enforced, but I don't think the Wynn team wants the server to become too Pay2Wynn
     
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    Just because the EULA isn't enforced doesn't mean they should break it.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    I'm not saying they should. If they want to, they can. I'd personally prefer they didn't, but who am I to stop them doing what they want, and who are you to do the same?
     
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    If they did they'd lose most of their fan base. There are those of us who don't want to pay, and don't want to put up with VIP's bragging about what they can do compared to normal players.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    I don't think you understand some stuff. Look at Hypixel. The VIPs and MVPs don't gloat their powers over the other players and neither will our VIPs and VIP+s. And look, it's extra content that doesn't give a major advantage over non-VIPs, meaning you don't need to pay just to play the game. And even if the perks were big, you still wouldn't have to pay.
     
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    The VIP's and MVP's of Hypixel get only purely cosmetic things, for hubs. That's different than ingame game changing rank upgrades. In addition, this IS a big update, the VIP's could literally be a level 10, and get tped to Troms.

    Think about it this way: Before the EULA they HAD major powers. These were removed in order to match the EULA.

    Let me rephrase this much: By downloading the game you agree to Mojang's EULA. It's like signing something. I understand that many servers break this EULA, but, they are often small enough that Mojang doesn't realize it.

    So ultimately, if Wynncraft broke the EULA and got caught breaking it, then got into legal trouble with Mojang. Mojang would win the legal dispute because they have that EULA.
     
  19. tomisdaman27

    tomisdaman27 The owner of a legendary trade...

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    The XP Totems are within the Eula, since they provide xp for everyone within 50 blocks. It just happens to be that the VIP is usually within the circle, so they get the xp most of the time. As long as it is something that affects the population, not just the single person (Such as XP Bombs) it is okay to use. Wynn has not broken the Eula, and I'm sure they don't plan to.
     
  20. Francis12qwasyx

    Francis12qwasyx Hacker Extraordinaire VIP

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    That is the revised idea salted made after people said they didnt want to make wynn too pay to win. The original thread allowed people to vote for the double XP for VIPs only - as it was pre-EULA paranoia
     
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