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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by xKindredKinesis, Sep 9, 2015.

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I like the skill points idea the most, second the charge. Not so much of the spell variants though.

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10/1 I also only care about Mage.
Does anyone else see the charged attacks seeming like Super Training from Generation 6 Pokemon?

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Some ideas are pretty neat, but others aren't. Shift key to cancel a spell is probably the worst idea here.
Spell variants, though, seem pretty neat. I was going to say it'd make it too confusing, but unlocking them at maybe Level 41 or 51 would be fine.
The main problem with RPGs these days is that everything is too confusing. That's why I like Wynncraft: I don't bother much with skill builds, and I've been slowly seeping into the ID-build things.
When Gavel comes out, they'll slowly seep is into skill builds with the skill system, but they've also made it in a way that isn't confusing. (I think.) That's sort of why I like the variants, but the bonuses and charged attacks are probably a bit too much. (Classes are already a bit tedious to code, apparently. :P)

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Jamer_theGamer said: ↑

Some ideas are pretty neat, but others aren't. Shift key to cancel a spell is probably the worst idea here.
Spell variants, though, seem pretty neat. I was going to say it'd make it too confusing, but unlocking them at maybe Level 41 or 51 would be fine.
The main problem with RPGs these days is that everything is too confusing. That's why I like Wynncraft: I don't bother much with skill builds, and I've been slowly seeping into the ID-build things.
When Gavel comes out, they'll slowly seep is into skill builds with the skill system, but they've also made it in a way that isn't confusing. (I think.) That's sort of why I like the variants, but the bonuses and charged attacks are probably a bit too much. (Classes are already a bit tedious to code, apparently. :P)
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Thanks for the feedback!
The spell variants were something I've wanted to suggest for a really long time, so I'm glad you like that idea. I'll use your input and have variants unlocked a little later.
For shift-key cancelling spells, it becomes increasingly frustrating when a certain key doesn't get picked up and a Heal turns into an Ice Snake. If this delay ever gets fixed in the Gavel update (or a future update), then there would be no need for spell cancellation in general.
As for the skill builds, you're right. It does get really complicated when you begin to put into thought about just how many things require skill points. I guess this was a feature meant for the game as of right now, where no one is willing to use different builds from time to time.
And finally, Charged attacks. Think it'd be okay if I just changed it to have one attack?

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Nice suggestion! I really like it ^-^

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Crazy thread of doom i like it

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I love these ideas! And I thought the element things and new ids were good...
One thing though. How did you get these ideas? Hax, I'm sure nobody will be able to work it out...

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Seregios said: ↑

I love these ideas! And I thought the element things and new ids were good...
One thing though. How did you get these ideas? Hax, I'm sure nobody will be able to work it out...
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I guess boredom and inspiration lead to some interesting things, eh?

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Dr HAX said: ↑

I guess boredom and inspiration lead to some interesting things, eh?
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Happens to me all the time. If I can't get to sleep, I suddenly make random ideas without thinking.

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I like all of it
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No joke.

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Happens to me all the time. If I can't get to sleep, I suddenly make random ideas without thinking.
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Dude, that totally happens to me, too.
That's actually kinda creepy.

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I like all of it
1,000/10
No joke.

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Dude, that totally happens to me, too.
That's actually kinda creepy.
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It's the Illuminati... RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

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Wynncraft's gameplay is simple and easy to learn. As time goes by, players will unlock all sorts of new spells, find better gear, and some will even earn a reputation in the Nether. But what about players with a different style of gameplay? What if a pre-Spell Update player prefers the old Teleport over the new one, or a newbie Archer doesn't like how Escape brings you backwards? With this issue in mind, I bring this suggestion to the table; spell variants.

Spell variants would be unlocked by reaching level 41 on a class. An icon in your use menu would represent this menu. Here, you could change what kind of spell you'd like to use, based on your own preference. A tier I variant would be available at first, but the second variant has to be unlocked by maxing out the upgrades for that certain spell.

Heal - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Heal - Revive Variant
Heals slightly less HP, but restores nearby allies’ hunger as well, and replenishes buff times.

Tier II - Heal - Shroud Variant
Heals in several pulses, each pulse more spread-out and capable of slowing down enemies caught in one.

Teleport - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Teleport - Phase Variant
Teleports much further and allows the user to end up midair, but deals no damage.

Tier II - Teleport - Warped Variant - Pre-Spell Update Teleport w/ Changes
Teleports shorter distances swiftly, but can be used in the air multiple times, and has more damaging effects.

Meteor - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Meteor - Chaos Variant
Fires three miniature meteors, covering much more area in total, but at the cost of damage.

Tier II - Meteor - Burst Variant - Pre-Spell Update Meteor w/ Changes
Fires a meteor directly from the wand, causing an instantaneous explosion with slightly less damage.

Ice Snake - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Ice Snake - Arctic Variant
Materializes an ice snake that can travel longer distances and hit opponents above the ground, at the cost of damage and freeze time.

Tier II - Ice Snake - Glacial Variant
Materializes an ice snake that does not reach out, but instead forms a frontal barrier of ice, dealing more damage and freezing for longer.

Bash - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Bash - Fissure Variant
Smashes the ground, creating a stream of normal explosions that travel further, but with less damage and little stun time at the end.

Tier II - Bash - Shatter Variant
Smashes opponents with a single AoE attack, with much longer stun time at the cost of range. The first explosion causes blocks to rise.

Charge - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Charge - Tempest Variant
Rushes forward with high vertical distance, finishing with a second hop that blows enemies away. Does not deal any damage.

Tier II - Charge - Vorpal Variant
Rushes forward in a straight direction without increase in elevation, rapidly tearing through enemies. Deals damage at startup, and is faster than normal.

Uppercut - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Uppercut - Rising Variant
Deals a vertical strike, as well as sending the user into the air to gain slight vertical distance. Damage remains the same, but the explosion only sends the enemy straight down.

Tier II - Uppercut - Contact Variant
Deals an immediate but less powerful strike that does not send enemies very high into the air, but simply deals a high knockback hit, and then an explosion where the enemies land.

War Scream - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - War Scream - Aegis Variant
Deals no damage, but provides a hefty Absorption buff and extended buff times.

Tier II - War Scream - Primal Variant
Deals more damage and lures enemies towards the user, causing them to lose all aggro towards other players. Lowers buff times.

Arrow Storm - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Arrow Storm - Barrage Variant
Fires a lower amount of arrows, but each round contains five streams of arrows.

Tier II - Arrow Storm - Cyclone Variant
Fires a lower amount of arrows, within three streams of arrows directly in front of the user, trapping enemies bombarded by arrows, either on the ground or in the air. The last arrows deal knockback.

Escape (Normal)
Same as usual.

Tier I - Escape - Lunge Variant
Jumps forward, but without a floating effect.

Tier II - Escape - Double Variant - Pre-Spell Update Escape w/ Changes
Jumps with rather less vertical distance, but jumps can be chained together as long as there is still enough hunger for the spell.

Bomb Arrow - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Bomb Arrow - Mortar Variant
Fires a slow-moving bomb arrow that fires at an arc, but deals higher damage and longer cripple time.

Tier II - Bomb Arrow - Rending Variant
Fires a fast-travelling arrow that pierces through enemies instead of blowing them up, slowing enemies down instead of crippling them.

Arrow Shield - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Arrow Shield - Pulse Variant
Deploys a shield of arrows that sends all waves of arrows up quickly, but the arrows progressively reach out further.
First Wave - Two Blocks Out
Second Wave - Three Blocks Out
Third Wave - Four Blocks Out
Fourth Wave - Five Blocks Out

Tier II - Arrow Shield - Stone Variant - Pre-Spell Update Stone Shield w/ Changes
Deploys a shield made of stone that does not deal contact damage; however, using it just as the user is about take a hit will deflect and counter the damage onto the enemy, dealing 75% of the user's own damage.

Spin Attack - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Spin Attack - Crescent Variant
Creates a short-range forward-moving slash instead of an AoE attack, which pierces through enemies.

Tier II - Spin Attack - Vortex Variant
Absorbs enemies into the first attack, before blowing them away with a second hit. If the first hit is somehow interrupted, it will leave the user vulnerable to attack.

Vanish - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Vanish - Shadow Variant
Conceals the user, infecting nearby users with temporary Blindness and minimal damage. However, the spell duration is cut in half, and being vanished emanates more smoke.

Tier II - Vanish - Illusion Variant
Does not conceal, but getting struck will immediately send the user ahead three blocks, allowing for a quick escape.

Multihits - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Multihits - Outrage Variant
Launches a flurry of less-damaging punches, regardless of whether an enemy is caught in the attack or not. The punches deal no knockback, but the last hit is a power punch. Can be directed to punch in different directions.

Tier II - Multihits - Incision Variant
Launches a single strike that inflicts bleed, which rapidly damages enemies over time. Though it does not instantly kill enemies, it will bleed them for a very long period of time, capable of dealing more damage than a regular Multihits usage.

Smoke Bomb - Normal Variant
Same as usual.

Tier I - Smoke Bomb - Trick Variant
The bomb is planted on the ground, then explodes after five seconds, or upon contact. Deals extra damage.

Tier II - Smoke Bomb - Blinding Variant
The bomb’s smoke does not deal damage, but gives blindness and slowness to enemies, while granting the user a quick speed bonus.

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Another idea for the gameplay is charged attacks. Normally, people don't use the standard attacks that often. I mean, why would you shoot fairy dust at zombies, when you can just obliterate the entire forest with a single meteor strike? To hopefully make attack combos a core part of strategy, I have devised this idea.

Charged attacks work as such; you hold the left click button (right-click on archer) down as a bar charges on the item's name, like this:

Detlas' Legacy [| | | | |]
Detlas' Legacy [| | | | |]
Detlas' Legacy [| | | | |]
Detlas' Legacy [| | | | |]
Detlas' Legacy [|<O>|]

Charged attacks at maximum deal 175% damage, but take up more attack cooldown time (the delay between standard attacks). Items would have a stat called Charge Speed, and depending on the weapon, some would have faster charging speeds than others.

These are the effects that charged attack can have, as well as some bonuses for elemental properties:

Wand - Summons a small blast that deals damage and slows nearby enemies.
Spear - Creates a vicious slash that cancels the enemy's current spell and deals knockback.
Bow - Fires a charged arrow that travels much faster and can pierce through one enemy.
Dagger - Unleashes three strikes, the last hit dealing knockback to the enemy.

Charged attacks that are performed on weapons with elemental effects gain an after effect.
+ Growth - Earth, leaves a short-lived green ring (five seconds) that drains health from enemies standing in it.
+ Cinder - Fire, leaves short-lived flames (five seconds) on the ground that rapidly burns enemies standing on them.
+ Torrent - Water, leaves a short-lived puddle (five seconds) on the ground that drains mana from enemies standing in it.
+ Breeze - Air, leaves a short-lived cloud (five seconds) on the ground that boosts speed for those who walk on it.
+ Shock - Thunder, leaves short-lived sparks (five seconds) on the ground that slows down enemies who walk on them.

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And now onto the next idea; skill bonuses. Skill bonuses essentially make skill build planning a lot more interesting than just going 70-70-8 or 70-50-28. At certain point intervals, passive bonuses are awarded to the player, making them much more suited towards different play styles.

Proximity - 15 STR
Attack power increases (+5%, +10%, +20%) when closer to an enemy (5 blocks, 3 blocks, 2 blocks).

Diehard - 30 STR
At varying health levels (50%, 25% 10%), damage bonuses vary (+20%, +40%, +60%).

Sword Aegis - 45 STR
Every five points invested in the strength stat gains an extra point for the defense stat.

Finale - 60 STR
A damaging hit inflicted upon an enemy has a 10% chance to repeat with a second hit that deals 50% damage.

Bloodlust - 70 STR
Gain +10% in damage and attack speed for every enemy killed, and stacks up to five kills. Killing an enemy will either increase damage/attack speed or renew the damage streak.

Flash - 15 DEX
A critical hit inflicted upon an enemy will stun/blind.

Combo - 30 DEX
Half of the current strength stat multiplier will apply to critical hits.

Perfect Hit - 45 DEX
Chance of landing a critical hit is multiplied by x1.25 when using vanilla criticals.

Spark - 60 DEX
A sudden burst of sparks will indicate a critical hit, dealing 50% splash damage to enemies within the blast radius.

Ascended - 70 DEX
Critical hits have a 25% chance to deal x3 damage instead of x2 damage.

Wisdom - 15 INT
Hunger regenerates 25% faster.

Potency - 30 INT
Identifications besides Health Regen, Life Steal, Mana Regen, and Mana Steal gain a 5% increase

Mana Drain - 45 INT
Killing five monsters within five seconds will reward five hunger/2.5 whole points back.

Focus - 60 INT
Spells deal 25% more damage when inflicted upon a single enemy.

Efficiency - 70 INT
Spell spamming penalty is lessened, as it takes twice as much casting to increase the hunger cost.

Armored - 15 DEF
Every 10 points in your current armor set gains an extra point in the defense stat.

Fervent - 30 DEF
Good potion effects are amplified to the next tier.

Durability - 45 DEF
Every 10 points in the defense stat gains an extra point in the agility stat.

Carapace - 60 DEF
Damage taken after five seconds of neutral activity - no attacking or spell casting - will be reduced to 50%.

Reflex - 70 DEF
Enemy damage has a 15% chance to be reflected upon the offending enemy by 75% of your damage.

Illusion - 15 AGI
Enemies whose hits are dodged have a 25% chance of slipping and damaging themselves by 50%.

Surge - 30 AGI
Upon dodging an attack, you gain strength I for 3 seconds.

Wind Aegis - 45 AGI
Every 10 agility is 1 defense point.

Flight - 60 AGI
Upon dodging an attack, you gain Jump Boost I & Speed II for 2 seconds.

Evasion - 70 AGI
Chance of dodge is increased by +5% when sprinting or jumping

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Here are some smaller ideas:
1) Spell Cancellation
Ever had a spell input command go wrong and find yourself unable to redo it on time? Here's an idea. When casting a spell, if absolutely necessary, press the Shift key to cancel the current spell. It's a simple idea, but it saves a lot of grief.

2) Party XP
At the moment, parties are rather weak, and there is usually no need to have one, unless to interact within a group. Perhaps by allocating 50% of the XP to be shared and 100% to be kept, it would encourage players to party up much more often.

More ideas will be added when I come up with them. Please leave feedback!
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This would make it too complicated and some builds would be op eg. a assassin who could spam multi hit

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This would make it too complicated and some bilds would be oped
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Mind specifying what exactly is overcomplicated and/or OP?
Because this is a suggestion based entirely around gameplay, please consider that it does need quite some consideration, and that errors will be made.

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Mind specifying what exactly is overcomplicated and/or OP?
Because this is a suggestion based entirely around gameplay, please consider that it does need quite some consideration, and that errors will be made.
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just did

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Not a necropost if I as the OP bumps it, right?

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xShirokaze said: ↑

Not a necropost if I as the OP bumps it, right?
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No, only if you add something meaningful to the original.
Still necroasis...

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