Guilds Rework Of Guilds

Ha_Ha_Redstone · Nov 22, 2015

Ok.
I honestly wouldn't mind the whole reset thing, as long as all of the glitches are fixed. Getting my guild leveled up was a pain in the ass with all of the glitches that happened, but I feel like it would be much easier to get to the spot we were.

MasterMiner · Nov 23, 2015

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So, first a little story I was talking to the other moderators about guilds and what our opinions of them are. Me personally, I feel as if they are the worst, I think they don't contribute much to the game at all, there are more reasons why but that is my main idea of why I do not enjoy guilds as much as the next person. Anyway this was being discussed and we were throwing ideas around what would happen with guilds *PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING WILL BE REMOVED OR ADDED WE ARE NORMAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUGGESTIONS SOMETIMES* after that disclaimer... I came up with an idea that I thought was pretty good so I decided to share it with you guys to get your opinions on my idea. Because I am also lazy and I don't want to make this all fancy, you get me telling you what I think. I may also release an audio version for the lazy readers in the future.

So it is known that big guilds have a choke hold on territories and small guilds can't do anything about it, or even get their own territory without it being taken back by a big guild within minutes.

My proposal is this: different tiers of guilds. This means your guild depending on its level gets put into a tier where it can only interact with guilds in that tier.
Ex. A lv 1 guild cannot interact with a lv 11-20 or 21-30 or 31-40 or 41-50.
This means that only small guilds will interact with each other and big guilds will interact with big guilds.

There would be 5 separate territory groups to accommodate this tier system, when you get to the next tier unfortunately your territory will be lost if someone has already claimed it, but if it is not claimed you get to keep it.
If you manage to keep a territory with all of your tiers you will gain bonuses to the XP you gain, and a discount on the mobs.

So any territory you lost will be subject to that change so that it gives incentive to keep the same territory throughout the tier levelings.

TL;DR: Different tiers for different levels of guilds, the different tiers can't interact with each other. You get bonuses n stuff sometimes.

So alliances usually end in flames and don't always work out how people hope, so if there were alliances then the territories would be split between them and they would get half of the xp and emeralds they would normally get from their allies' territories and 3/4ths of the xp and emeralds from their own.

It is set up so it is not all xp and emeralds because that is OP AF, so you get a reduced amount from your own but a bonus from your allies. You would not be able to attack an ally's territory or claim it for your own until 3 other guilds own it in a row.
There would also be two different kinds of alliances, one for other guilds and one for guilds that still belong to you but somehow your guild is just too small for everyone so you have to make another one.

The extra guild that adds onto yours would have to be linked when it is created and it has to get confirmation from the leader of the main guild that it is indeed a smaller version of the bigger guild, it will also cost 25% extra and will grow with each mini-guild created.

TL;DR: Alliances are more official with bonuses, also smaller versions of bigger guilds to make a family of guilds.

So holding a territory is really difficult if you are a small guild and you aren't feared by all or in the process of creating a monopoly of the Wynncraft world. So to change this, I suggest different ways to taking territories and what these different ways are/do.
So my first way is a better mob system that actually gives a challenge to the people that are attacking, so they have a chance to lose. Along with the mobs there could be players of the defending guild that are thrown in there in a PvP/PvE style battle royal over the territory. If the attacking force dies then they don't get the territory, if they win they get it. Pretty simple.

Another way that I am suggesting is a regular good old fashioned PvP death match. There would be no handicaps there is just your armor, weapon, and you. So the only way that this could happen is if there is no mobs, there would be like a 1 minute timer or whatever for the defending guild to rush their butts over to the territory to defend it. But if no defending guild member gets on or to it in the 1 minute it just becomes the attacking guild's. Also, pretty simple.

TL;DR: PvP is introduced to taking territories to make it harder and worth putting up a fight for.

I am sure most of us, the ones that have figured it out by now, feel like guilds are like glorified permanent parties to just compete with so you can say you have the biggest di-guild on the playground. Well that is how I, personally, feel about them anyway. So they should have more than just a leader board and numbers and clicking till the territory is yours.

My suggestion is a guild hall so you can build a home for you guild (This has been floating around Wynn for a while) and along with that a quest system (very hard to do) just for guilds, where you can do cooperative quests with your guild members, probably only 2-6 to keep it small. First off with the guild hall, pretty self explanatory, you get to build your guild hall, really only the ranked members should be able to do this. Anyway, each 10 levels you gain an increase to the size of the land that is there, and an increase of how many blocks and entities you may have on your little plot of land.
When first making it you can do presets of guild halls if ya wanna be boring, or make your own spongy-dirt creation. Regular members can also suggest what should be changed to the guild hall with a sign board or something at the teleport entrance or something(details are hard at 12 am).
You can also set the biome and decorations if your level is high enough, every block you place will reward you some XP so that building a guild hall isn't a complete waste of time.
Your leader can have a place where you can buy potions/armor/weapons/item IDer/Bank/emerald exchanges/etc. but you have to be a high level for this and it would cost a lot of emeralds to put down the NPCs, shacks are also required for them so some of your guild hall resources would have to go to them. I think I covered the guild hall part of my suggestion...

Now onto the quest system (honestly if you're still reading this much you are amazing, no idea how you managed it)
So the quest system would be something at your plot, a ranked member can pick out a quest for people to do, and if anyone is online they can go to the guild plot and wait in the queue for the quest.

From then it will give the objective once the amount of people has been met, if it is required. So the guild members must go and complete the objective, it could be anything from a fetch quest to some elaborate exploration quest to get a treasure for someone. Quests that involve items only require one person to get the item, they talk to the NPC and the dialogue gets sent to the other people doing the quest as well.
By default the quest starter will get any new quest items given by NPCs because they are the quest starter. Once the quest is complete XP will be given to the people, as well as the guild along with an item that can be given to the players or some new material that can be used to make the guild hall, it won't be something that you already have like wood.

The quests will be repeatable but you will keep getting less XP for the guild, and less XP for the players that already did the quest.

TL;DR: Guild halls, guild plots, guild cooperative quests, other ways of earning XP.

So I think that is all my ideas I have on Guilds, and how they can be reworked into something more than they are now. Now I am positive that more is going to be added onto guilds because I am like 99% sure it has been said that more guild stuff will be added, not sure if any of this will be because I don't really keep track of a whole lot of things, but anyway this is what I think should be done about guilds and what I feel would make them more interesting for people.

Now, remember this is not confirming anything, I can make a suggestion too and a suggestion that I want to hear your opinion on. Please, question the suggestion, as it will only make it more detailed and more informative. I am very sorry that this thread is not colorful and pretty like every other thread that exists but honestly it is just a distraction to me.

So if you read this entirely, and understood what I mean then holy hell you are a trooper congratulations you need a cookie.

TL;DR: I made a suggestion on how to fix guilds, at least read the TL;DR: of each section.

Oh as a side note, guilds would have to be reset to make it a new fair playing ground(XP/level only)
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I love everything except for the guild reset because I'm an awesome guild (YOU ROCK kangronomicon) but I don't mind but I don't like the 1v1 dueling I was thinking very similar but we have like level 60 vs 61 like close level and same because a mage is weak so it can get rekt but other classes

Daraku · Nov 23, 2015

MasterMiner said: ↑

I love everything except for the guild reset because I'm an awesome guild (YOU ROCK kangronomicon) but I don't mind but I don't like the 1v1 dueling I was thinking very similar but we have like level 60 vs 61 like close level and same because a mage is weak so it can get rekt but other classes
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I feel bad for ya.. Fuq is gone...

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One thing. Right now all I care about is getting rid of the glitches.

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I'm sooo sick of the negative XP, the delete guild glitch, invite glitches, ect. IM SOOO TIRED OF THEM!

Daraku · Nov 23, 2015

Anyways, I like the idea, pretzule.

MasterMiner · Nov 24, 2015

Dia said: ↑

I feel bad for ya.. Fuq is gone...

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One thing. Right now all I care about is getting rid of the glitches.

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I'm sooo sick of the negative XP, the delete guild glitch, invite glitches, ect. IM SOOO TIRED OF THEM!
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well in my opinion the first guild glitch is saw was in march 2015 where sometimes the guild xp doesn't show when you get xp for guild but its been getting worse now it never shows on /guild list

Daraku · Nov 24, 2015

ya these gltiches hass been getting worse and worse

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and now its gottin to the point were lvls wont update or negitave exp is possible

Pretzule · Nov 26, 2015

Jack Jones said: ↑

Lol

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One more idea I had btw: Instead of guilds being able to build their own bases, why don't they just use the "guild halls" already built in the lobby. I mean, I never got why the devs never came up with it in the first place since they already built them. If the devs come up with ways to monitor and participate in guilds in the lobby, the guild halls already there would be useful. Now sure they'll have to come up with ways to designate guild halls to higher level guilds, but I think the guild halls in the lobby should be utilized in some way.
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I already said there would be premade guild halls, those could be included.

Drew1011 said: ↑

Yes. And that's wrong. You are saying that since something wrong happens in one place, it's somehow ok to do it somewhere else, even when we know it's wrong?
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Donald Trump 16 said: ↑

Or, is it wrong to wrong a wrong, just because it's wrong?
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It's wrong, but honestly guilds are such as mess right now and there are complaints about it almost every day some of which you might not see but there are complaints about it and they are glitchy and kind of useless as of now.

Well, the controversy of the reset is nice, as there are different view points on it. It is still my opinion that they should be reset if they want to be made properly. Sometimes you have to start out with a strong foundation for something to survive and that means rebuilding if it isn't right.

Cadenza_M31 · Mar 1, 2016

Gimme my cookie!

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