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Potential Assassin Nerf Ideas

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Coronaus, Sep 11, 2015.

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What do you think about this possible solution?

  1. Yes, this is all assassin needs to be balanced.

  2. Yes, but assassin would still need a larger nerf to their main damage source, multihit.

  3. No, they are already balanced in my opinion.

  4. No, this wouldn't be very effective and not provide additional counter play.

  5. Other (please elaborate in coments)

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  1. Coronaus

    Coronaus Forever a member of the Kingdom of Foxes CHAMPION

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    So I believe it is safe to assume that most people in generally feel that the assassin class is too powerful due to its only real flaw, lack of mobility, completely canceled due to the fact that their invisibility gives them an insane gap closer. In idea I have that could eliminate this is having the assassin be completely coated in smoke particles when they go invisible and only have the particles removed while in range of their smoke bomb. This allows the assassin's invisibility to have at least some counter play while not changing the real core of their kit. It also enables other classes to use the assassin's smoke screen as an indicator of where the assassin will arrive and if they are caught in the smoke screen they can use their superior mobility to escape fairly easily. I believe that this would be a fairly reasonable without actually changing too much.
     
  2. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    I think Assassin is getting a nerf in Gavel, the main problems are really the high defense (almost as much as Warrior, and this is a stealth class), and that multihit does like 2000% damage (Its supposed to do 350%)
     
  3. CSST_Abuse

    CSST_Abuse NoshaReif VIP+

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    ok well the assasin is to op in pve and pvp. And this idea is great and i think you are right about what you said. I think its good yeah k. it should also have a nerf in defence.
     
  4. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    Salted has said it before, so I'll say it here, Assassins are getting nerfed in Gavel; that's already planned. While I can't say how it's getting nerfed, I can say it's going to be brought down to the other class's levels in all-round terms rather than being a win-button.

    Also, while Vanished you already leave a small smoke trail where you walk, if you take the time to look.
     
  5. Coronaus

    Coronaus Forever a member of the Kingdom of Foxes CHAMPION

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    I haven't noticed that smoke trail pretty much ever. I expect the assassin to keep the invisibility in the next update so would it be possible to increase the particle density?
     
  6. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    The focus is in PVE currently. In the future once everything is settled out there may be a PVP-balancing update, but for now we're much more concerned with pushing Gavel and fixing bugs. There's more important things than this that need attending to, so in the immortal words of Mr. Iwata, please understand.
     
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  7. Coronaus

    Coronaus Forever a member of the Kingdom of Foxes CHAMPION

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    Of course. I do understand that there is a lot on your plate at the moment and I definitely feel it is more important to complete what you have already started especially with how large this Gavel update is going to be and how the major focus of Wynn is PVE. Please continue your amazing work in the game. Its been a pleasure to be a part of this community for around a year now and I hope that you and the rest of the staff will continue progressing this server and keep making it better and better.
     
  8. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    It's the glitched damage values that need to be reworked, not the class.
     
  9. pmac1972

    pmac1972 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Saw title of thread and laughed
     
  10. LeafyWizard

    LeafyWizard Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Assassin is potato
     
  11. The One-eyed Guy

    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    1. Assassin is perfectly balanced. All you need to stop Vanish is an extra Assassin-killing weapon with Fire Aspect, with trolls Vanishers.
    2. Your so-called "debuff" destroys any hope of using Vanish in PvP. A moving, animated cloud of smoke is even more eye-catching than a player running towards you.
    EDIT: There are glitched values, but apparently those are getting rebalanced later.
     
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  12. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    Assassin isn't balanced, but not because of vanish. It's the glitched damage and defense values.
     
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  13. roboblock93

    roboblock93 its a me CHAMPION

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    Fire DESTROYS assassins. It pretty much cancels invis.
     
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  14. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    You can't say the same for PvE, if you think I'm wrong, people have literally proven that its unbalanced if you look very closely at its stats.

    And Salted said they're getting nerfed in Gavel according to Selvut.
     
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  15. Devourer

    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    Make sure you have particles on then, or you won't see them. Or if you are mage and saw them go invis/heard them use the 360icesnake.
     
  16. Sanae_pls

    Sanae_pls That Fucking Dark Wizard

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    watch me get stronger in this "balancing" update
     
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  17. Pepega

    Pepega Guest

    Hi Sanae I got banned
     
  18. Taf

    Taf Legendary Adventurer HERO

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    assassins doesnt need buffs or nerfs? kay?
     
  19. The One-eyed Guy

    The One-eyed Guy that guy VIP+

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    Yes, I know about the bad multihit and high defense, but the thread creator was mostly just talking about Vanish.
     
  20. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    True
     
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