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Youtube Video - Comparing Assassin And Mage , Convincing The Devs That Assassin Does Need A Buff

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  1. Kraby

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    note that i had tons of defense and was 8 lvls above him with a legendary
    while hehas a rare , negative defense on everything and he was 8 lvls below me
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    btw i know multi hit has been buffed , this is after the buff
    also multi hit was most likely only slightly buffed if it still deals such a low damage sooo yea


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    well what i think would be a nice buff could be buffing multi hit to deal 35% damage every hit and keep the 100% in the end
    it might seem like a lot but it will still only deal around 2k damage with the hive daggers (not taking into account the damage bonuses from armor and skill points)
    which with a 9 mana cost and a 4 block range ability only seems fair
     
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  2. Devourer

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    Ok, so here is what I know from being a mage and having played a bit of assassin:
    Mage: While heal is very good, it doesn't heal up to 80% UNLESS you already have at least 50% of your health. If you use heal on low health, you don't heal very well. Meteor is quite slow and with the speed assassins should have with or without vanish, they should easily get away from the meteor. And ice snake? Well, assassins can get rid of negative effects with spin attack.
     
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    while you have vanish on you basically ran out of mana in one second
    remember the mage was so many lvls under me yet he was doing so much damage , and ok mybe most of the times mages dont heal 80% but they heal a crap ton while having better damage than the class that is meant to have the most damage in the game
    and mage's description obviously says it isnt meant for damage

    basically assassin justneeds to have 1 ability that can actually deal a lot of damage and is a melee ability
     
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    That's why a lot of dexterity items have mana steal, and I've found that dexterity fits assassin quite well.
    I actually sort of agree on the damage though... but assassin doesn't need a buff. Instead, both mage and archer need a slight nerf.
     
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    i am gonna be honest
    if they can just make multi hit actually deal damage i would be happy
    it dealt 2k damage to him and he had negative defense against its damage
    if they could make multi hit with lets say bob's mythic deal 3k on avarge and a multi hit with qira's infused daggers deal like 5k on avarge (which is still lower than meteor and remember it has a tiny range ) it should be fine
     
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    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    endgame assassin deal 10k with spin attack + multihit + smoke bomb combined. the more damage you want to deal, the less mana regen and health regen u get so as mana steal and health steal

    mage deals 15k with meteor endgame, it falls extremely fast since level 36. his mana cost is literally close to nothing, he domt need health steal nor health regen as he got heal, and he doesnt need mana steal as he got that 100 int stats. can only need to focus on high damage and high mana regen which is EXTREMELY EASY TO ACHIEVE.


    you call that balance?
     
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    I didn't say it wasn't balanced. I said that mage and archer need a nerf, though not a really big nerf. Assassin is fine since it isn't meant to be a high damaging class. It's meant to have things like mana steal and other things you get by using dexterity and it's also meant to be hit quickly, not hit hard.
     
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    isnt meant to be a high damaging class
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    Damage 5/5
    no other class has that much damage , archer has 4/5 mage has friking 2/5
    and they both deal like 5 times more damage than assassin
    also read the description "Exploiting enemies weak spots to deal MASSIVE amounts of damage"
     
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    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    the sarcasm is real!!
    i like it.
     
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    My assassin damage is higher than a lot of other players for my level, but the problem is I sacrifice so many stat points, le for equipment, and hp regen, mana regen, lifesteal, health, and pretty much all elemental defenses. That I am still weak as fuck. For my assassin who is suppose to be the highest damage class, with good defense and spells. My mana drains faster than any of my other classes, and I have no defense to spare, because I spent it all on what little damage I could put out. Assassin most definitely needs a huge buff, it's not fair that classes like mages, and archers can have so much range, defense, spell cast, and damage. Especially mage, because they can heal.
     
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    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    1. assassin is a 5/5 damage class. mage is 2/5 but deal 4 times more dmg
    2. im pretty sure air element is the element that hit the fastest. which classes use air the most? yup you are rite it is archer not assassin
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    exactly what i point out in my post

    check it out if u hv time https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/lets-compare-assassin-and-mage.110021/#post-1194159
     
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    Ik it says there, but from my experiences with assassin it is meant to be fast hitting and sneaky, not a powerful attacker.
     
  13. MajesticMaj

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    Incorrect, mages heal other people MORE than they heal themselves. Get ur facts right. My Mage healed 3-4k out of my 11k HP whereas my friend healing me would heal 7-10k
     
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    my friend healed 9k hp as a mage with 12k hp
    its not incorrect
    and even 3-4K out of 11K is a crap ton
     
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    Not possible, I play a level89 Mage and a level92 Dark Wizard & can confirm you can NOT heal yourself 9k HP with 1 heal, 2 heals sure. Not 1
     
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    maj is right when he healed me i got to like full health xd but when he healed him self he didnt
     
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    EDIT: Also the lower HP or the closer to max HP the Mage has, the less heal heals. For example if you have 1k HP out of 11k, you'd heal less than 1k - 1k
     
  18. Kraby

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    dunno mybe its effected by water like damaging spells or something
     
  19. XavierEXE

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    The power of heal is affected by the Water skill point.
     
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    No, heal amount is based on how much spell damage you have. I'm mostly based on water & have an exceptional amount of spell damage.

    @XavierEXE Also by spell damage.
     
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