SPOILER Wynn + Dern = Saved?

So we all know that the province of Wynn has corruption because it's in the middle of forces of light and dark (Light being The Realm of Light, dark being Dern), so this begs the question:

Why doesn't Wynn join forces with Dern to help them defeat the Realm of Light and make it dark?

Technically speaking, if the Realm of Light was turned into darkness, this rids Wynn of the corruption, because it isn't between forces of light and dark anymore, it's between forces of dark and dark.

Now one may ask why doesn't Wynn join forces with TRoL? Because it's significantly harder, after all, Orphion condemns Lari, a mage (or wizard) that has been fighting off the decay of gavel for a millenium, so how would he react to mere humans and villagers of mediocre magical powers to help him? (The player doesn't count here).

Worth to mention, I'm suspicious of the King of Ragni, for having ties with the Fruman Queen, an evil and malicious leader with no clear intent as of now. So, could there be something large at play here?

In conclusion, I think the choice here would be fairly easy if one thinks only about their own land and not others'.

 

I think the realm of dark would bring destruction just like the corruption does. Have you seen the silent expanse? That damage is from dern.

 

Well, Wynn is already closed off from Dern, the point is defeating TRoL to get rid of the corruption, nothing more nothing less.
EDIT: You are right, the damage is from Dern, but specifically from The Beast, no one knows if Dern is actually a full force of evil, all we know as of now is that The Beast is the main source of evil.

 

I love thought projects that delve into the idea that light ≠ good and dark ≠ bad

also fuck RoL

 

destroying the light could make the dark strong enough to seep into Wynn. Also by working with dern Wynn could accidentally let the darkness in.

 

You might as well call the Light Forest "damaged" by the Light, then. The Light clearly introduced new species, literally the same as Dern has done to the SE. The only difference is, "dark look evil smh bad"
What has Dern done to harm the SE?

 

aren't dern and corruption allied to destroy wynn province tho

 

*ahem*
If RoL was turned into darkness (without corrupting it, somehow), this would not affect the corruption in Wynn. Remember, it itself isn't caused by a clash of light and dark, it comes from the portal. Yes, at some point, it was caused by a clash in the nether, but that original clash stopping hasn't affected it and neither would anything else. Corruption doesn't need light and dark to continue its existence, it just needs them to start. Beyond that, it expands of its own accord, unless people manage to destroy it.

Also, Orphion doesn't condemn Lari for being bad at magic. She isn't bad at magic. He condemns her for refusing to kill, which is not a problem shared by human and villager soldiers. Sure, he only picks the player, but that's because we pass the test, not because he already knew that we're way better than all other humans. He's perfectly fine with accepting help, he just needs to know the person helping is powerful and worthy enough.
Besides, do you think the Dern Beast would just let Wynn stay as it is if his main rival is defeated? Sure, he can't get in YET, but he's trying to (as seen in SE ultimate) and would definitely find a way if he stopped having to worry about Orphion screwing its plans up.

https://wynncraft.gamepedia.com/The_Olm
I don't remember the Light committing genocide against intelligent species

 

Light is taking all of Gavel, so Darkness deserves to take all of wynn lol

Also Life can definitely exist in Darkness, but it doesn't quite seem 'human friendly'. They're warped and too different. That's why we're not allowing them.

 

Wait so there was that one cutscene in RoL 4 with the planes of existence. It looked like Gavel was tied to RoL, Wynn was tied to the nether (the portal is there, and it has the most corruption), and the SE is tied to Dern. But, I thought dern took SE from wynn. So was dern basically without a province until it took the silent expanse? Did the light colonize gavel then?

 

having to deal with the corruption is far preferable to having to deal with the silent expanse on a province wide scale

 

so help darkness win, live in a corrupt and dark world, and then not have to struggle with a battle between light and dark but only struggle with getting up in the morning?

seems reasonable

 

the real question is how do dern and corruption react when they spread into each other

 

We see what happens when we team up with darkness in the corrupted dungeon hubs. Does not look very good, don't you think?

 

I seriously doubt that. At least Darkness doesn't seem to burn everything down. Corruption loves fire!

 

Well, no one really knows what effect would bring if the influence of both light and dark ends, you can't say corruption doesn't need light and dark to continue, after all, the corruption happened because of the influence of both opposing realms, if one of the influences disappears, there's a chance the corruption disappears with it, because there is no clash anymore.

Also, I never mentioned the reasoning behind Orphion condeming Lari, I just stated that he did. My point was: Are the simple warriors and mages of Wynn worthy enough to be accepted by Orphion? Probably not.

Moreover, having to deal with 1 big bad guy is better than dealing with the corruption. We know nothing about Dern but the beast, we don't know if the realm itself is harmful or evil, all we know is that the beast is a tyrant that wants control, if they're defeated, who's to say that their evil would still be out there trying to take control over all lands?

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Technically speaking, corruption can't spread into Dern, because first of all, Dern is a realm, not a province, second of all, half of the corruption is because of Dern itself.
At the end of the day, corruption happens at the land that has a clash of opposing realms, the land being Wynn, the opposing realms being Light and Dern, and there is no clash at Dern itself, so I don't think it can be spread there.
As for Dern, it is technically already in Wynn, the influence of it anyways.

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This is the thing, darkness doesn't have to mean corrupt and evil, darkness is just a force and power, what we know is evil in Dern is the beast, and if they're defeated, there's a chance most of if not all of evil is defeated.

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Not at all, Dern is half of the corruption, Dern's influence to be exact, the other half is The Realm of Light's influence.


Corruption Wiki Page

 

Well, you can't say for sure whether or not corruption would stop (unless oculism knows and wants to tell us), but I don't understand why it would. It's the reaction to light and dark fighting, but it clearly doesn't need that in order to expand through Wynn, so I'm not sure why it would need the clash to survive. Besides, if a lack of light affects corruption, shouldn't the stuff going on in RoL / the decay make corruption weaker?
Anyways, considering we're not sure about this, I don't think it's a good idea to help literal darkness just to see if killing the god of Light makes corruption go away, since Wynn would be screwed if it doesn't work.

What do you mean by "accepted"? He's not going to give them all the Taproot choice and his light powers, of course, but I don't understand why that's a bad thing. If they want to help fight Dern, I'm sure he would let them, so long as they don't all die in SE while trying to get there. Are you trying to imply he would somehow stop them from helping him fight Dern for some reason? I feel like I'm missing part of the argument here.

Yes, dealing with Dern by itself is better than dealing with Dern and corruption. The problem is, as I said above, we don't know if that would work, and having the Light on the side of Wynn would help a ton in a war against Dern/corruption, provided the player saves Orphion. Would you rather be in a fight of random humans and villagers against the god of darkness, or the god of light and random humans and villagers (and Lari I guess) against the god of darkness and random zombies? Orphion doesn't even have to directly help random Wynn soldiers at that point, just helping Lari and the player to fight the Dern beast would be enough.

But how do you plan to defeat them without Orphion's help? Sure, the player is strong, but not that strong by themselves. And, without Orphion, Lari would likely be on Dullahan's power level (in other words, useless), so I can't see the Dern beast losing in this scenario. Besides, we don't actually know that the others in Dern are nice anyways, and, despite the Heliolux being removed, we are shown that creatures in RoL know about and support Orphion, so it's pretty fair to assume the inverse applies in Dern.
Also:

• Guardian of the Forest: The Realms of Influence are, themselves, reflections of a Beast- They themselves, a physical manifestation of their realm, as their realm is a manifestation of them.

"their realm is a manifestation of them" - the beast isn't just the leader, it represents the realm itself. If the beast is evil, so is the realm as a whole.

Technically, they aren't, but since Bak'al effectively controls most of corruption, and serves Dern, they may as well be allied to destroy Wynn. The forces themselves aren't, yeah, but their armies are, so I don't get your point here. If they both remain, Wynn would have to fight them both off to survive, regardless of how corruption forms.

sure, darkness just enslaves your whole species for as long as possible (eternity if it can), much better, yeah

 

Well it is in a war...

 

I think someone played to much hollow knight