Community Event The Wynncraft Quest Survey Results

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UPDATE: oculism still loves democracy, if not even more now

So a while ago, I made a survey for all the quests in Wynncraft, and asked yalls to rank them from worst to best, alongside some other things. And now... they're here. So without further ado, here are the results:

Average Rankings:
I collected these through a table checkbox list thingy (you know what they are), and asked people to rank them from 1-10, the lesser values being worse and vice versa. The results can be found in the spoiler in descending order (also some might share a spot together, so make of those what you will, and some of them might have the same decimal values, but not be together, and that is because i rounded them to the tenths, so again, make of that what you will):

Spoiler: Average Rankings

• 124: Lost Tower (3.3, Lv 26)
• 123: Cook Assistant (3.6, Lv 3)
• 122: Elemental Exercise (3.7, Lv 10)
• 121: Tribal Aggression (3.8, Lv 35)
• 120: Green Gloop (3.8, Lv 31)
• 119: Hunger of the Gerts Part II (3.9, Lv 78)
• 118: Bob's Lost Soul (3.8, Lv 45), Zhight Island (Lv 55)
• 117: The Temple of the Legends (3.9, Lv 68)
• 116: Pit of the Dead (4, Lv 23)
• 115: Potion Making (4.2, Lv 12)
• 114: Troubled Tribesmen (4.2, Lv 73)
• 113: Ice Nations (4.2, Lv 40)
• 112: Clearing the Camps (4.3, Lv 42)
• 111: Grand Youth (4.3, Lv 69)
• 110: Infested Plants (4.3, Lv 4)
• 109: Underwater (4.4, Lv 8)
• 108: Underice (4.5, Lv 43)
• 107: Haven Antiquity (4.5, Lv 70)
• 106: Lost Royalty (4.6, Lv 65)
• 105: Craftmas Chaos (4.7, Lv 30)
• 104: Lost Soles (4.7, Lv 66)
• 103: Dwelling Walls (4.7, Lv 24)
• 102: Beneath the Depths (4.7, Lv 60)
• 101: Grave Digger (4.7, Lv 20)
• 100: Macabre Masquerade (4.9, Lv 21)
• 99: Star Thief (4.9, Lv 42)
• 98: Poisoning the Pest (4.9, Lv 2)
• 97: Crop Failure (5, Lv 52)
• 96: Cluck Cluck (5.1, Lv 23)
• 95: Canyon Condor (5.1, Lv 38)
• 94: Lost in the Jungle (5.1, Lv 29)
• 93: Enzan's Brother (5.1, Lv 1)
• 92: Studying the Corrupt (5.2, Lv 21)
• 91: Tower of Ascension (5.2, Lv 40-75)
• 90: Stable Story (5.2, Lv 13)
• 89: Reincarnation (5.3, Lv 74)
• 88: The Corrupted Village (5.3, Lv 26)
• 87: Mushroom Man (5.3, Lv 9)
• 86: Pirate's Trove (5.3, Lv 39)
• 85: The House of Twain (5.4, Lv 49)
• 84: Desperate Metal (5.4, Lv 86)
• 83: Realm of Light III - A Headless History (5.4, Lv 64)
• 82: WynnExcavation Site C (5.4, Lv 55)
• 81: The Maiden Tower (5.4, Lv 51)
• 80: Maltic's Well (5.4, Lv 16)
• 79: Arachnids' Ascent (5.5, Lv 14), Wrath of the Mummy (Lv 36)
• 78: Death Whistle (5.5, Lv 53)
• 77: WynnExcavation Site B (5.5, Lv 45), The Passage (Lv 57)
• 76: ??? (5.5, Lv 80)
• 75: Meaningful Holiday (5.5, Lv 33)
• 74: The Shadow of the Beast (5.5, Lv 54)
• 73: Hunger of the Gerts Part I (5.6, Lv 77)
• 72: Tempo Town Trouble (5.6, Lv 25), The Mercenary (Lv 30)
• 71: Redbeard's Booty (5.6, Lv 61)
• 70: Jungle Fever (5.6, Lv 52)
• 69 (nice): Blazing Retribution (5.7, Lv 44), Aldorei's Secret Part II (Lv 78)
• 68: Frost Bite (5.8, Lv 48), The Bigger Picture (Lv 76)
• 67: Lava Springs (5.8, Lv 18)
• 66: King's Recruit (5.8, Lv 1), Creeper Infiltration (Lv 15)
• 65: The Olmic Rune (5.8, Lv 100)
• 64: Realm of Light II - Taproot (5.9, Lv 62)
• 63: Rise of the Quartron (5.9, Lv 49)
• 62: Fallen Delivery (5.9, Lv 79)
• 61: A Sandy Scandal (5.9, Lv 32)
  • Avg. Quest Ranking (6)
• 60: WynnExcavation Site A (6, Lv 35)
• 59: Enter the Dojo (6, Lv 89)
• 58: An Iron Heart Part I (6.1, Lv 49), Realm of Light I - The Worm Holes (Lv 54)
• 57: The Canyon Guides (6.1, Lv 84)
• 56: WynnExcavation Site D (6.1, Lv 70)
• 55: The Lost (6.1, Lv 85)
• 54: Royal Trials (6.2, Lv 98)
• 53: Heart of Llevigar (6.2, Lv 41)
• 52: Reclaiming the House (6.3, Lv 61), Out of my Mind (Lv 63)
• 51: Corrupted Betrayal (6.3, Lv 52)
• 50: From the Bottom (6.3, Lv 81)
• 49: The Dark Descent (6.3, Lv 24)
• 48: Realm of Light IV - Finding the Light (6.3, Lv 71)
• 47: Master Piece (6.4, Lv 53)
• 46: The Sewers of Ragni (6.4, Lv 5)
• 45: A Grave Mistake (6.5, Lv 50)
• 44: Mixed Feelings (6.5, Lv 87)
• 43: Kingdom of Sand (6.5, Lv 33)
• 42: Fate of the Fallen (6.5, Lv 43)
• 41: The Hidden City (6.6, Lv 88)
• 40: A Marauder's Dues (6.6, Lv 83)
• 39: From the Mountains (6.6, Lv 67), Lexdale Witch Trials (Lv 72)
• 38: Murder Mystery (6.6, Lv 73)
• 37: The Hero of Gavel (6.7, Lv 99)
• 36: Memory Paranoia (6.7, Lv 67)
• 35: General's Orders (6.7, Lv 80)
• 34: The Qira Hive (6.7, Lv 80-100)
• 33: Tunnel Trouble (6.8, Lv 6)
• 32: Recover the Past (6.8, Lv 25)
• 31: Dwarves and Doguns Part III (6.8, Lv 93)
• 30: Purple and Blue (6.9, Lv 77)
• 29: Cowfusion (6.9, Lv 86)
• 28: Lazarus Pit (6.9, Lv 69, very nice), Aldorei's Secret Part I (Lv 74), Dwarves and Doguns Part II (Lv 92)
• 27: Acquiring Credentials (6.9, Lv 74)
• 26: Recipe for Disaster (6.9, Lv 96, kinda nice)
• 25: Shattered Minds (7, Lv 70), The Envoy Part I (Lv 83), Dwarves and Doguns Part I (Lv 91)
• 24: Flight in Distress (7, Lv 75)
• 23: An Iron Heart Part II (7.1, Lv 58)
• 22: Deja Vu (7.1, Lv 27)
• 21: The Envoy Part II (7.2, Lv 89)
• 20: Beyond the Grave (7.3, Lv 87)
• 19: The Ultimate Weapon (7.3, Lv 75)
• 18: Realm of Light V - The Realm of Light (7.4, Lv 79)
• 17: One Thousand Meters Under (7.4, Lv 95)
• 16: The Feathers Fly Part I (7.5, Lv 91)
• 15: The Thanos Depository (7.6, Lv 81)
• 14: Dwarves and Doguns Part IV (7.6, Lv 94)
• 13: The Feathers Fly Part II (7.7, Lv 93)
• 12: Point of No Return (7.7, Lv 102)
• 11: Fantastic Voyage (8, Lv 90)
• 10: Forbidden Prison (8.1, Lv 72)
• 9: A Journey Beyond (8.1, Lv 100)
• 8: A Journey Further (8.2, Lv 101)
• 7: The Order of the Grook (8.4, Lv 59)
• 6: All Roads to Peace (8.5, Lv 64)
• 5: A Hunter's Calling (8.7, Lv 103)
• 4: The Breaking Point (8.7, Lv 97)
• 3: Misadventure on the Sea (8.8, Lv 28)
• 2: Hollow Serenity (9, Lv 73)
• 1: The Canary Calls (9.2, Lv 85)

Ok yeah, quite a bit of quests. I feel like the top 3 are somewhat aligned with mine (#3 - Forbidden Prison, #2 - The Canary Calls, #1 The Feathers Fly Part II), but hey, overall these designations are stuff I'd agree with (especially Lost Tower it is god awful and I stand by that until the day it inevitably gets replaced and/or reworked).

The Extremes
On the survey, I also had a question that asked which quests were somebody's favorites and most hated. I collected these and measured how well liked is by the following method: each quest had an initial starting value of 0 points, and points would be added if they were on a top 3 list or deducted if they were on a bottom 3 list. If it was ranked in a specific order, then the most/least favored got +/- 3 points, 2nd most got +/- 2 points, and 3rd got +/- 1 point. If they were not listed in a particular order, then they got +/- 1 point. If a quest has a more extreme value, then it is more likely to appear in someone's top/bottom quest list. Of course, this is fallicious, as a quest with a more center-score could be extremely polarizing, with a bunch of people liking it and about as much hating it, which means you should take some of these with a grain of salt.

And without further ado, here are the results:

Spoiler: People's most and least favorite quests

Spoiler: Negative Extreme Values (Score of -5 or lower)

• The Temple of the Legends (-9)
• Elemental Exercise (-7)
• Tower of Ascension (-6)
• Realm of Light III - A Headless History (-6)
• Pit of the Dead (-5)
• Lost Tower (-5)
• Green Gloop (-5)
• Bob's Lost Soul (-5)

Spoiler: Negative Moderate Values (Scores between -4 and -2)

• The House of Twain (-4)
• Hunger of the Gerts Part II (-4)
• Aldorei's Secret Part II (-4)
• Tribal Aggression (-3)
• The Canyon Guides (-3)
• The Hero of Gavel (-3)
• Underwater (-2)
• Macabre Masquerade (-2)
• Dwelling Walls (-2)
• WynnExcavation Site A (-2)
• Underice (-2)
• WynnExcavation Site B (-2)
• WynnExcavation Site C (-2)
• Zhight Island (-2)
• WynnExcavation Site D (-2)
• Shattered Minds (-2) (bit of a surprise here ngl)
• Beneath the Depths (-2)

Spoiler: Neutral Values (Scores between -1 and 1)

• King's Recruit (-1)
• Creeper Infiltration (-1)
• Studying the Corrupt (-1)
• The Mercenary (-1)
• A Sandy Scandal (-1)
• Wrath of the Mummy (-1)
• Canyon Condor (-1)
• Ice Nations (-1)
• Clearing the Camps (-1)
• Crop Failure (-1)
• Jungle Fever (-1)
• Realm of Light II - Taproot (-1)
• Realm of Light IV - Finding the Light (-1)
• Reincarnation (-1)
• Hunger of the Gerts Part I (-1)
• A Marauder's Dues (-1)
• Enter the Dojo (-1)
• The Feathers Fly Part I (-1)
• Royal Trials (-1)

This line here is for every other quest that has a neutral score of 0.

• Recover the Past (+1)
• Meaningful Holiday (+1)
• A Grave Mistake (+1)
• Memory Paranoia (+1)
• Acquiring Credentials (+1)
• The Ultimate Weapon (+1)
• Flight in Distress (+1)
• Realm of Light V - The Realm of Light (+1)
• The Qira Hive (+1)
• ??? (+1)
• Fantastic Voyage (+1)
• Dwarves and Doguns Part I (+1)
  
• Dwarves and Doguns Part II (+1)
• Dwarves and Doguns Part III (+1)
• Dwarves and Doguns Part IV (+1)

Spoiler: Positive Moderate Values (Scores between +2 and +4)

• All Roads to Peace (+2)
• Recipe for Disaster (+2)
• The Feathers Fly Part II (+3)
• One Thousand Meters Under (+3)
• Point of No Return (+3)
• Forbidden Prison (+4)
• A Journey Beyond (+4)

Spoiler: Positive Extreme Values (Scores of +5 and above)

• Misadventure on the Sea (+5)
• The Order of the Grook (+6)
• The Breaking Point (+10)
• A Hunter's Calling (+14)
• Hollow Serenity (+17)
• The Canary Calls (+25)

Scatter Plot of the Results
Here it is if you can understand the context and don't wanna look at words:


What makes quests good:
I also asked this question, and here is a general summary of what people like about the quests they liked:

• Polished
• Fun
• Replayable
• Interesting Plot & Gameplay
• Optional
• Well-written dialogue & NPCs
• Minimal use of cutscenes unless when necessary
• Not fetchy
• Not very buggy
• Memeable & Memorable
• Cool bosses
• Fits within the lore
• NPCs of or related to the quest being grateful after completing it
• Secrets
• Novel compared to other quests
• Cool minigames
• Good builds
• Animations
• Well thought-out puzzles

What makes quests bad:

• Unfun
• Repetitive
• Vague directions
• Bad/boring plot & gameplay
• Very dated
• Long and tedious fetch quests
• Poorly written
• Packed full of cutscenes; slows down gameplay considerably
• Grindy
• Plot holes
• Forgettable
• Poorly thought-out puzzles
• Bad and/or untrue tutorials
• Feels like a downgrade from the previous version
• Barely contributes to the lore
• Profs (when unnecessary)
• Simple parkour/dungeon crawler feeling
• Excessive parkour
• Too short
• Rushed
• Buggy
• Locks important stuff behind it

Conclusion
So in the end, the best quests in Wynncraft would be the ones that follow a general rule of good game design, which I feel like all of the top 10 averagely-ranked quests do. So, in the end, this pretty much tells us nothing too out of the ordinary, but it does specify which quests follow these rules of good game design well. So if any GMs see this thread, if you followed these general rules, then keep on doing what you're doing, and to aspiring future GMs, take a quick look at some of these traits and see how the quests implement these. Of course, this might not cover all your bases, but it this should at least cover a few. And with that, we have learned "Love is patient, love is kind, love does not envy, love does not boast, love is not arrogant, love is not rude, love is not irritable, love is not resentful, Ḯ̸̫̦͘t bears a̴̝̚ll thin̶̹͒̄ͅgs, I̷͚͈̋̑t̵̏͂ͅ hopes a̸̯̔l̸̛̠͉l thin̶̹͒̄ͅg̶̙̣͂s̷̲͎͐, I̷͚͈̋̑t̵̏͂ͅ endures a̶̗̍l̷̡̢̚l̴̤͉̓ th̸͓͓́̓ì̸̠́n̸̡̖̽gs, I̸͚̎̆t̶̳̼͌ ̷͕̀́í̷̙͂s̷͉̹͂ everlasti-" oh wait no, wrong quote. "quests are cool ig." - that one funny creature in trippy forest

 

I like Canary Calls way more than I like Hollow Serenity, this is still good old fashioned democracy to me.

 

how the hell did sandy scandal almost make it to the average i think of it as like the worst quest by a landslide

Jokes aside this is cool to see, thank you for putting all this together!

 

The real question now is does @Glitch496 love democracy as much as oculism

 

very cool thread
not sure why hero of gavel is so high up maybe they fixedi t

 

I'm honestly shocked Hollow Serenity didn't get the top spot. Democracy is weird sometimes.

Now I'm curious how many people took this survey. If it's actually a decent amount I might trust these results. Not that I think my quest doesn't deserve a ranking like that, but I do think it has its issues. Then again as its creator I'm always finding new ways to criticize it lol

 

36 people, which is a pretty small sample size compared to the rest of the community, so make of that what you will.

 

I find it strange how many quests were rated worse kn average than aldorei's secret 2 & hunger of gerts 2

 

What I don't get is why people like The Canary Calls so much. Me personally, it's gotta be like #15 or something. I feel the main reason why people like it so much is that the Canary is pretty much just an edgy Sans Undertale (??? guh). It checks (in my opinion) quite a few of the "bad quest" criteria:

• Unfun (subjective)
  
• Repetitive (the "follow the rails" mining part where you're just breaking blocks)
  
• Vague directions (you literally just wander around a room for one portion and for the dialogue you can just die for no reason)
  
• Grindy (follow the rails)
• Poorly thought-out puzzles (again- select the wrong response to the canary and you get sent to ahmsord. great.)
  
• Simple parkour/dungeon crawler feeling (you're literally just making your way through a tunnel for a solid portion of it)
  
• Excessive parkour (there was way too much of the minecart parkour)
• Buggy (eh, not too buggy, but the minecart section can be hell if there's lag and such; and again, you don't even get sent to thesead when you die, you get sent to ahmsord)

Now, Elemental Exercise- it's definitely not the 3rd worst quest. Yes, it's short, and yes, it doesn't have a huge significance in the lore, but it's just a nice little quest. It's not overly linear (you're not just walking through a series of puzzles, ahem) and it's not just a straightforward "go fetch me a something" (although it does tell you to do so, but that's not the point); there's a little exposition, then an unexpected twist, and it all ties together nicely.

 

Macabre Masquerade is CRIMINALLY low...

 

Glad to see AJB in top 10

Also Misadventure still in top 3 what

 

I'd say the main reason why Canary Calls is so well liked is because of how unique it feels to the rest of the gameplay, and how some of the secrets are meant to be found by wandering around, and while the minecart parkour is hard, you get the option to skip a section if you fail it too much. I can kinda see why some people didn't like it too much though.

As for Elemental Exercise, the main reason why it is far more hated than other quests like it is because it is meant to be a tutorial quest about elements, and you are lied to within it, as well as it being an ineffective tutorial to round it all off.

Might as well put my inputs on the other bottom 3 quests here too:
Cook Assistant: I feel like this does not deserve all the hate it has for it. It's meant to be a short quest, and if it got above the concept of "bring me these items k thx bai" then it could come off as intimidating or setting the standard too high.

Lost Tower: I hate this quest. This is a glorified mini-quest. Yes, it's because it is very dated, and that is exactly why it needs to be reworked or removed/replaced. There's not even anything interesting about it, it's just go to a place, get an item, come back, and boom you're done. Ig there's a miniboss in there, and it wouldn't be too bad if it was at least decent, but no. Just a wither skeleton. That's it.

 

Colossal rat

 

There are no quests that Elemental Exercise should be above, however 122nd place will have to do.
I'm honestly surprised at Cook's Assistant being so low - honestly, I kind of enjoyed the quest, as, while it is simply a fetch quest, it only takes a couple minutes and is pretty relaxing and peaceful.
Lost tower? I'm fine with the quest - finding the tower itself was mildly annoying, but outside of that, it feels just like a secret discovery pretending to be a quest.
Other than that, I only have a few complaints.
Primarily, The Ultimate Weapon should've been higher - while top 20 is nothing to laugh at, the quest deserves better, as I found it quite funny and an even better mockery of fetch quests.
The Hero of Gavel should be lower - I might just personally have bad experience with bugs and poor design, but I disliked the quest a lot.
I am overjoyed with the Wynncraft community, since Forbidden Prison gets its (deserved) spot in the top 10.
At first, I was confused (and perhaps even a bit upset) at The Order of the Grook's spot in the top 10, but then I thought about it. Honestly, it's a top-tier quest - a lot of work was put into it, the jokes were funny (not as good as The Ultimate Weapon, though), and all in all I like the quest.

Honestly? I'm not surprised that The Canary Calls is #1. I could write a whole essay about why it's the greatest, but I'll just sum it up with this:
1. The NPCs are cool
2. The lore is great
3. The fight is amazing (when do we get Canary song)

 

i say to hopnip... YOUR QUEST SUCKS MISADVENTURE ON THE SEA IS HATED FOR ONE REASON: IM NOT AN IDIOT.

also temple of legends 10/10. fr its more like 7/10 but the idea of it is really what appeals to me

i havent actually played AHC or hollow or canary so i cant rly say

 

I start Misadventure for the first time...
"This doesn't seem logical."
I start it for the fifth time...
"Alright, time to let myself get kidnapped by pirates I could probably easily massacre"

 

i dont like that quest

 

What i've learned from this thread: wynncraft players are dangerous psychopaths with an extensive history of violence who will kill virtually harmless pirates-- who just wanted help tidying up their boat-- over what should be a minor inconvenience.

 

Ever read the book Steelheart?
Also, it's generally not a good idea to kidnap someone destined to slay pseudogods.