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SPOILER The True Meaning of "Fall of the Twins"

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  1. shtnck eyh ckhhe

    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    So, in case you're not familiar with it, "Fall of the Twins" is a cryptic poem you can read in the Grand Archive, a secret discovery. It reads as follows:

    Born from another, condemned each other.
    One sought for the truth, the other for solace,
    but did not treat themselves as brothers.
    Breaking through heaven was the young one's dream.
    It's call hollowed the souls of the frightened,
    but it was not enough to bring a flow to the stream.
    The younger one fell, as the ambition brought it down.
    The older one watched with grief and sorrow,
    only to wear its long desired crown.
    Though only for a while, the survivor smiled.
    The claws soon ravaged and the blood flowed wild,
    as from a nameless place judgement had arrived.

    It, indeed, is pretty mysterious and cryptic. No one has been able to give a solid explanation of this poem.

    That is, until now.

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    Correct. The poem describes the one and only savior of Christianity, the Christ Jesus Christ.

    Let me explain:

    Born from another, condemned each other.
    In Christian theology, Jesus is God, and Jesus is the son of God. He is born from the other. Yet, he also went against many traditional Jewish religious interpretations of God.

    One sought for the truth, the other for solace,
    "I am the way, the truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but by Me" (John 14:6). As for solace, Jesus is said to have paid for man's sins, bringing solace upon humanity.

    but did not treat themselves as brothers.
    Jesus is said to be the son of God, not the brother of God;

    Breaking through heaven was the young one's dream.
    Again, paying for the sins of man;

    It's call hollowed the souls of the frightened,
    Jesus' ideas were revolutionary, and thus would frighten conservatives;

    but it was not enough to bring a flow to the stream.
    A metaphorical wave; his ideas were met with resistance; it was Constantine who popularized Christianity, bringing a flow to the stream;

    The younger one fell, as the ambition brought it down.
    Jesus, the Son, died as he sought to spread his teachings. Notice the usage of the word "the": it is not simple ambition, but a greater, specific cause, which would make sense if the poem were to describe Jesus and Christianity;

    The older one watched with grief and sorrow,
    According to the Bible, God is sorrowful and grieves when man sins;

    only to wear its long desired crown.
    Christianity becomes the most popular religion in the world; a metaphorical crown;

    Though only for a while, the survivor smiled.
    The claws soon ravaged and the blood flowed wild,
    as from a nameless place judgement had arrived.

    Some Christians believe that humanity will be judged once again, at the Last Judgement, at the end of time, by God;



    Thus we see that the poem "Fall of the Twins" actually refers to Jesus. I give you my thanks for reading my explanation of the above text.

    (ironic post)
     
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  2. ThedumbOX

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    As creative and interesting this is, I simply just don't think whoever wrote the poem intended it to be a metaphor for Christianity. It's a fantasy MMORPG minecraft server and there are no other major biblical or Christian references anywhere in the game. The biggest flaw is that God and Jesus simply aren't Twins; twins are born at the same time and Jesus was created after God. Furthermore, Jesus absolutely never condemned God or vice-a-versa; they are never portrayed as antagonists to one another in traditional Christian teachings.

    If I had to guess a possibility of what the poem means, it could be a reference to Orphion and the Dark Beast. Now it is a hunch, but given that this scenario touches upon the in game lore and therefore more topical, it makes more sense than a reference to a real life religion.

    The first and third lines match; both are born from completely different sides of the same coin (light and dark) and they hate each other.
    Breaking through heaven makes more sense because the Dark Beast wanted to invade the light realm, which is considered as a sort of heaven in the Elves religion.
    The younger one falling could be a reference to the Dark Beast being defeated at some point, only to then rise and challenge the older one once more (in this case Orphion).

    Beyond the poem, there is one off-hand line from the Light Forest Ultimate Secret Discovery: "This fight... This war... It has torn us apart from what we were."
    This is the Dark Beast talking to Orphion; so it means that at one point in the past these two beings were once connected. So I guess it can kinda support the usage of "twin" in the title of the poem.

    But that's just my two cents on it; I doubt we will ever get a clear answer and I don't think there was meant to be one.
     
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    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    As creative and interesting this is, I simply just don't think whoever wrote the poem intended it to be a metaphor for Christianity. It's a fantasy MMORPG minecraft server and there are no other major biblical or Christian references anywhere in the game. The biggest flaw is that God and Jesus simply aren't Twins; twins are born at the same time and Jesus was created after God. Furthermore, Jesus absolutely never condemned God or vice-a-versa; they are never portrayed as antagonists to one another in traditional Christian teachings.

    If I had to guess a possibility of what the poem means, it could be a reference to Orphion and the Dark Beast. Now it is a hunch, but given that this scenario touches upon the in game lore and therefore more topical, it makes more sense than a reference to a real life religion.

    The first and third lines match; both are born from completely different sides of the same coin (light and dark) and they hate each other.
    Breaking through heaven makes more sense because the Dark Beast wanted to invade the light realm, which is considered as a sort of heaven in the Elves religion.
    The younger one falling could be a reference to the Dark Beast being defeated at some point, only to then rise and challenge the older one once more (in this case Orphion).

    Beyond the poem, there is one off-hand line from the Light Forest Ultimate Secret Discovery: "This fight... This war... It has torn us apart from what we were."
    This is the Dark Beast talking to Orphion; so it means that at one point in the past these two beings were once connected. So I guess it can kinda support the usage of "twin" in the title of the poem.

    But that's just my two cents on it; I doubt we will ever get a clear answer and I don't think there was meant to be one.
     
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    The Crystals' lore is more complicated and important than you think. According to Mehme, 'someone' cast cosmic magic on the meteors that fall to Wynn and Gavel. The creators of cosmic magic had one goal in mind and that was to stop the Light and Darkness from expanding. Ever noticed how the Darkness never expanded into Wynn itself? That's because of the meteors that are in the Silent Expanse mountains, sent by those creators themselves. The theory goes that cosmic magic can prevent Darkness (and thus Light) from spreading. This is also the reason why Gylia Plains has never been decayed, as it contains the two biggest meteors we've ever seen. The crystals in the Silent Expanse mountains therefore act as a barrier. HOWEVER! Thanks to Lunar Spine's lore, which mentions how a 'shard of cosmic stone' that came out of the Nether Portal was defiled, we know that Corruption is able to counter cosmic magic. This makes sense, because if neither Darkness or Light can defeat it, then their chaotic union could. Anyways, now I want you to think about something. Why does the Dernic Beast even employ the use of Bak'al, a corrupted, to destroy Wynn? It's because the beast NEEDS Bak'al. He needs him to corrupt Wynn, and once he does, the cosmic magic barrier will be destroyed and he will be free to do anything he likes.
     
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    As creative and interesting this is, I simply just don't think whoever wrote the poem intended it to be a metaphor for Christianity. It's a fantasy MMORPG minecraft server and there are no other major biblical or Christian references anywhere in the game. The biggest flaw is that God and Jesus simply aren't Twins; twins are born at the same time and Jesus was created after God. Furthermore, Jesus absolutely never condemned God or vice-a-versa; they are never portrayed as antagonists to one another in traditional Christian teachings.

    If I had to guess a possibility of what the poem means, it could be a reference to Orphion and the Dark Beast. Now it is a hunch, but given that this scenario touches upon the in game lore and therefore more topical, it makes more sense than a reference to a real life religion.

    The first and third lines match; both are born from completely different sides of the same coin (light and dark) and they hate each other.
    Breaking through heaven makes more sense because the Dark Beast wanted to invade the light realm, which is considered as a sort of heaven in the Elves religion.
    The younger one falling could be a reference to the Dark Beast being defeated at some point, only to then rise and challenge the older one once more (in this case Orphion).

    Beyond the poem, there is one off-hand line from the Light Forest Ultimate Secret Discovery: "This fight... This war... It has torn us apart from what we were."
    This is the Dark Beast talking to Orphion; so it means that at one point in the past these two beings were once connected. So I guess it can kinda support the usage of "twin" in the title of the poem.

    But that's just my two cents on it; I doubt we will ever get a clear answer and I don't think there was meant to be one.
     
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    As creative and interesting this is, I simply just don't think whoever wrote the poem intended it to be a metaphor for Christianity. It's a fantasy MMORPG minecraft server and there are no other major biblical or Christian references anywhere in the game. The biggest flaw is that God and Jesus simply aren't Twins; twins are born at the same time and Jesus was created after God. Furthermore, Jesus absolutely never condemned God or vice-a-versa; they are never portrayed as antagonists to one another in traditional Christian teachings.

    If I had to guess a possibility of what the poem means, it could be a reference to Orphion and the Dark Beast. Now it is a hunch, but given that this scenario touches upon the in game lore and therefore more topical, it makes more sense than a reference to a real life religion.

    The first and third lines match; both are born from completely different sides of the same coin (light and dark) and they hate each other.
    Breaking through heaven makes more sense because the Dark Beast wanted to invade the light realm, which is considered as a sort of heaven in the Elves religion.
    The younger one falling could be a reference to the Dark Beast being defeated at some point, only to then rise and challenge the older one once more (in this case Orphion).

    Beyond the poem, there is one off-hand line from the Light Forest Ultimate Secret Discovery: "This fight... This war... It has torn us apart from what we were."
    This is the Dark Beast talking to Orphion; so it means that at one point in the past these two beings were once connected. So I guess it can kinda support the usage of "twin" in the title of the poem.

    But that's just my two cents on it; I doubt we will ever get a clear answer and I don't think there was meant to be one.
     
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    The Crystals' lore is more complicated and important than you think. According to Mehme, 'someone' cast cosmic magic on the meteors that fall to Wynn and Gavel. The creators of cosmic magic had one goal in mind and that was to stop the Light and Darkness from expanding. Ever noticed how the Darkness never expanded into Wynn itself? That's because of the meteors that are in the Silent Expanse mountains, sent by those creators themselves. The theory goes that cosmic magic can prevent Darkness (and thus Light) from spreading. This is also the reason why Gylia Plains has never been decayed, as it contains the two biggest meteors we've ever seen. The crystals in the Silent Expanse mountains therefore act as a barrier. HOWEVER! Thanks to Lunar Spine's lore, which mentions how a 'shard of cosmic stone' that came out of the Nether Portal was defiled, we know that Corruption is able to counter cosmic magic. This makes sense, because if neither Darkness or Light can defeat it, then their chaotic union could. Anyways, now I want you to think about something. Why does the Dernic Beast even employ the use of Bak'al, a corrupted, to destroy Wynn? It's because the beast NEEDS Bak'al. He needs him to corrupt Wynn, and once he does, the cosmic magic barrier will be destroyed and he will be free to do anything he likes.
     
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    It probably has a meaning relating to the lore, I doubt they'd just put some random and cryptic story in a library with various other pieces of lore
     
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    As creative and interesting this is, I simply just don't think whoever wrote the poem intended it to be a metaphor for Christianity. It's a fantasy MMORPG minecraft server and there are no other major biblical or Christian references anywhere in the game. The biggest flaw is that God and Jesus simply aren't Twins; twins are born at the same time and Jesus was created after God. Furthermore, Jesus absolutely never condemned God or vice-a-versa; they are never portrayed as antagonists to one another in traditional Christian teachings.

    If I had to guess a possibility of what the poem means, it could be a reference to Orphion and the Dark Beast. Now it is a hunch, but given that this scenario touches upon the in game lore and therefore more topical, it makes more sense than a reference to a real life religion.

    The first and third lines match; both are born from completely different sides of the same coin (light and dark) and they hate each other.
    Breaking through heaven makes more sense because the Dark Beast wanted to invade the light realm, which is considered as a sort of heaven in the Elves religion.
    The younger one falling could be a reference to the Dark Beast being defeated at some point, only to then rise and challenge the older one once more (in this case Orphion).

    Beyond the poem, there is one off-hand line from the Light Forest Ultimate Secret Discovery: "This fight... This war... It has torn us apart from what we were."
    This is the Dark Beast talking to Orphion; so it means that at one point in the past these two beings were once connected. So I guess it can kinda support the usage of "twin" in the title of the poem.

    But that's just my two cents on it; I doubt we will ever get a clear answer and I don't think there was meant to be one.
     
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