Guide Spells Not Working On Slow Weapons

WE FIGURED IT OUT GUYS
@Moe_Ronickah deserves credit too.

Anyways, on to the bug.
Have you ever been trying to cast a spell, and instead of casting the spell it just shows the full click combo for it but does nothing? Like "Right-Left-Right"? And then died because your heal spell won't work?
Well, we THINK we know what's causing it!

Basically, the spell will not work 100% of the time if the animation for your melee attack is still going.
So, if you attack normally, you know how a slow weapon will take ages to come back up?
If you cast a spell before the "swing" animation is over, the spell will not work!

Why is this thread a guide?
Because you can use this info to avoid the glitch!
If you need to cast a spell, don't melee attack for a couple seconds!
You can still spam spells all you want, even with super slow weapons, just don't melee attack in between.

Here's a video so you can see for yourself. I was using this weapon:



Oh, and, as for how it works with Archers?
...Weee're still figuring that one out.

MOE'S COMMENTS:

 

YAAA

Wait.. Thats a good thing right?

 

A bug with the same effect seems to happen to archers, but it's less common and we don't really know what's causing it yet.
It's pretty rare so it shouldn't be much of an issue for archers.

 

THIS is what I was looking for, but could not figure it out. As long as the melee animation is running, any spell combination fails on mages, warriors, and assassins. Archers fail more rarely. So here we have it: if we learn how to attack with fast or normal weapons, we will not experience this effect very often. You have to be FAST to get it to happen with a normal speed weapon. Usually, you won't make it happen, but if you really click fast, the spell will fail, if it starts before the melee animation is over. Now, carry that learning over to slow weapons, and you get instant frustration because it appears that the spells are bugged on slow weapons. They may or may not be. Read the next paragraph. Slower weapons just have to be used differently, with different timing. Something else to learn new, since the Gavel update.

Now, a couple of questions come to mind. First, will this change when the visual attack speed/dps is fixed? And if so, by how much? Until we see the update, we won't know if it will get better or worse for slow weapons, or any weapons, for that matter. Second, is this effect intentional? Is the cool down time from a melee attack supposed to interfere with spell attacks? I'm betting that the answer to this is "yes", but Xavier and I are hoping that it's "no". If it is, it would be nice to have some red text show up in the chat telling the player what is going on (HINT: "Your melee attack is still making you tired" or "You must wait to cast a spell after a melee attack"). Third, is it avoidable if it is unintentional? Probably so, but that's a coding issue. It might take a lot of work or it might change when the attack speed bug is fixed. We just don't know, yet. Forth, is it avoidable right now, in game? YES! As XavierEXE said, don't use melee attacks if you want or need to cast a spell very soon, if you have a slow speed weapon. And, as I've said elsewhere, we need to learn to change our mouse click speed in order to adapt to the different speed weapons. Will all of this change? Only @Salted and Jumla know, for now.

 

Or we could be completely wrong because we all know how weird Jumla's coding is at this point.

Also, I personally do think this is a bug and not a feature, because you can still spam spells fine with slow weapons, it only messes up if you use a melee attack beforehand.

 

I remember reading somewhere that any bug, sufficiently old, becomes a feature. Has Gavel been out long enough, in the overall history of WynnCraft, to make this a feature, yet?

 

"You call it a bug.
We call it a feature."

 

I can't test it for myself, what if I melee wuth a super slow weapon in slot 1, switch to slot 2 and back to 1 really quick and do a spell again.
It can be used as a quick "reload" for your spells (even quicker if you'll macro your attack with the quick switch in slots so it will immediately reset)

 

I can't test it rn either, but doing this doesn't seem to reset the cooldown for melee attacks itself if you switch back to the original weapon, only the animation. So I would guess this wouldn't work.

 

How about two weapons and a macro to switch to one of them, melee with it, and return to the first weapon?

 

I've mainly experienced this using Bizzles, a very slow weapon, it seems to occur much, much more often with very slow/super slow weapons, I've pretty much never had it happen to me when using slow or faster weapons.

 

people actually use slow weapons?



lmao

 

yes

 

They also abuse attack tiers

 

Lmao thanks I now know how to use spells on my apoc

 

Thats nice dear... Now fix powders

 

@Moe_Ronickah I would like to apologise for how I have behaved.

I took what you said and have tested it and it turns out you were right. I'm sorry for doubting you.

 

Dangit.

This is untrue, my bomb arrow fails very often when farming, I can try to get a vid of it.
It usually happens when I'm above the enemy facing down.

 

There are invisible armor stands right above mobs so that will explain it.

 

How high above? Because this recently happened in the jungle, way high up above a lake by the jungle village.