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World Skill Point Perks [1363 Supporters] [salted Likes It]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Nepeta Leijon, Dec 29, 2015.

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Do you like this idea?

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  2. Yes, but change... (Please suggest)

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  3. No, you need to change... (Please suggest)

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  4. No.

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  1. rainbowcraft2

    rainbowcraft2 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Your counterargument falls apart when you start reading it. For rainbow builds "Sometimes stronger" Means "other times NOT stronger". Not stronger at other times means the dual element builds are also "sometimes stronger" and going by your logic dual element builds are stronger.

    What utility? Rainbow builds have decent utility in everything. A bit of speed, a touch of poison, a mite of lifesteal. Wheras a build with dual elements has a ton of utility, just not so widespread. You can fight Quira with your rainbow friends, but it would be better to have several dual elemental friends - they are each much more specialized and together they cover each other's weaknesses with a power far stronger than the coverage a rainbow build can give in that element. Maybe rainbow builds are stronger for solo players but you cannot ignore those that play together - most hard quests were meant to require more than one player. Just because you can survive one of those battles doesn't mean you did it as quickly as a more specialized player could have.

    Let's look at Agility.
    That player can have up to an 80.5% chance to take zero damage from any damage source including other elements. So by specializing in agility they are as invincible as you claim rainbow builds to be. But this is only half of that player's skill points. They still have up to 100 skill points that they can put into any other element! The only time a rainbow build will truly be more powerful than a dual element build would be with the right rainbow mythics or if the dual elemental set involves defense (because defense is nearly useless since it has no effect on elemental damage).
     
  2. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage The Hero Gavel Deserves VIP+

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    Look, clearly, I'm misunderstanding your points, and you're misunderstanding my points. We're never going to agree, so this is a pointless discussion. We each have a reason for thinking what we do (which is a good thing) and so we're both making valid points. On the other hand, this has been going on for a long time, and I honestly don't care enough to keep fighting about it. I'm glad you care about the game and what happens to it as much as I do <3
     
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  3. rainbowcraft2

    rainbowcraft2 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Mature way to end the argument. That's something I rarely experience in any forum. I applaud you :smile:
     
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  4. Crispito Man

    Crispito Man First Offical Member Of The Crispito Club

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    Ok, this is epic
     
  5. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Skilled Adventurer HERO

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    ill give you a free bump because this is so good!
     
  6. BerriiBunnii

    BerriiBunnii Sleepy Little Devil

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    Thread bumped, this is awesome!
     
  7. Gabe Crocoduck

    Gabe Crocoduck Probably gone

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    Should I bump this
     
  8. Axliuz

    Axliuz Just call me Ax HERO

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    Maybe air can increase walk speed? After all, it's called "agility".
     
  9. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius HERO

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    It...already does?
     
  10. RazorGuild

    RazorGuild epic air gamer HERO

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    well I feel that many have already said this, but lower the percents to the 3-6% range. The difference shouldn’t be so massive like 20%. Skill points shouldn’t dictate the damage more than the actual items do. 10% by itself is already huge, and again skill points shouldn’t have a more positive effect than the actual items do.
     
  11. minibuilder789

    minibuilder789 Travelled Adventurer

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    who said no grrrr!1111!
    good suggestion :D
     
  12. Jukol

    Jukol Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    tbh still hopeful that this will be implemented eventually
     
  13. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius HERO

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    Your hope is what keeps this thread alive!
     
  14. Rujala

    Rujala perpetually procrastinating HERO

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    I like the idea of this, but it kinda doesn't make sense? Hence the question mark, I assume? I've been thinking of a solution the past week and I still have no clue what it should be replaced with... :>
     
  15. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius HERO

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    It's basically a parody of the other max skill point perks, since you'd theoretically 'know' everything about every element by investing points into all of them equally, but by spreading yourself so thin, you don't really know everything about every element (hence why you shouldn't go rainbow).
     
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  16. Shitposting 101

    Shitposting 101 Rich Bitch

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    obvs its an idea so balance isn't too important but the 100 defense perk sucks compared to the water and air one.

    real nice idea but it kind of encourages min/maxing and makes split builds (aside from rainbow) a bit weaker due to the sheer strength of the lv 100 perks but generally good idea.
     
  17. Cladiator1321

    Cladiator1321 Newbie Adventurer

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    yes i agree with you
     
  18. Rujala

    Rujala perpetually procrastinating HERO

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    Oh! Alright. c: Thanks for clarifying that.
     
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  19. rainbowcraft2

    rainbowcraft2 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Some people have mentioned that the rainbow perks have wording that sounds stronger than it really is. I'd like to suggest some alternatives.

    Prismatic Illusion: You can feel the balance between the elements.
    Raining Star: You are at harmony with the elements.
     
  20. sainguin

    sainguin Travelled Adventurer

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    This seems like a great way to flesh out stats in a more meaningful way than just flat bonuses. Also adds to build diversity and that's always a good thing.