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Media Regarding This Supposed "assassin Nerf"

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by TurtleTheSeawing, Feb 18, 2016.

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Do you agree with what I state here?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No! (Please give feedback, I'd appretiate it! :))

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  1. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Can we please all just forget about this?

    Honestly, I see no reason why people need to get all hissy and whiny about this supposed nerf, if you could even call it that. I don't want to sound like a broken record while saying this, but quite honestly this is one thing that I feel needs to be said.

    Assassin really wasn't nerfed. It changed playstyles.

    Quite honestly, nothing mlre or less happened with it. And the nerfs that were made, were made because it was TOO MUCH LIKE WARRIOR, you didn't have to be sneaky with the class AT ALL. Assassins are supposed to be more sneaky, and fast paced. While yes, they are the slowest class in wynn, and because its damage is between that of warrior's and mage, it means NOTHING. The damage is the way it is right now, because IT'S NOT a brute force character. The changes made to the class, are there to make it a sneaky class, like an assassin/ninja should be.

    I have a video:



    Showing how the mana nerfs haven't really downgraded the class much.
    I will admit, I do not play in the nether, due to the fact my anger can get overwhelmingly bad if I get competitive, but I do use assassin as a MAIN class, so I know what I'm talking about when I say all these things. Honestly when I came into Wynncraft after the Gavel Update, I didn't see much different from assassin, it didn't feel different, or anything. So really, it's hard for me to see any differences, or any supposed nerfs.

    So please, can we just stop with the whining about "ASSASSIN WAS NERFED TOO MUCH, CHANGE IT BACK!" because it really won't change too much from here, I feel as if this is a good area with assassin, and I feel it doesn't have to be a brute force like class.

    If you wish to do Medium damage, without needing to be sneaky, PLAY WARRIOR/KNIGHT it's what that class is there for! Don't tell the owners and devs to change what they just did, give it a chance, take their advice and start over, then try to make the build as you think it would work, don't whine about a class that was changed to suite the playstyle it was meant for.

    Love
    Hoke~​
     
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  2. fasdfsadfwewf

    fasdfsadfwewf Deadpool CHAMPION

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    Assassin needed a nerf I could 1 hit other level 75's and the vanish was so long. This isn't that severe because it needed to be made fair.
     
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  3. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Exactly, and as I stated (or at least try to state) above, all nerfs that WERE delivered to assassin, were nerfs that were needed.
    Along with such, it was needed to change its playstyle.
     
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  4. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I fully agree with this, there's just one thing that bothers me, and I think is the reason lots of players are mad about assassin being different than before.
    When you pick a new class and it shows the overall stats for each, it says this.

    ARCHER
    Strength [] [] [] []

    ASSASSIN
    Strength [] [] [] [] []

    It says that assassin is the strongest class, which is a lie when it comes to just hitting things. If they could swap those two stats to show that Archer is the most powerful with basic attacks, then lots of these complaints will go away and there won't be any more confusion.

    Because if I'm correct:
    Assassin has 100% Defence and 100% Damage
    Archer has 120% Damage and 60% Defence
    Mage has 60% Damage and 80% Defence
    Warrior has 80% Damage and 120% Defence
     
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    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Very true, I never thought of that. But still, it makes no sense to complain about it in the form of muliple threads, when you could just have one thread to discuss it.

    In the long run, one thread about a topic, where the issue is discussed in an orderly fashion, is more likely to make a change.
     
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  6. DrakeM1

    DrakeM1 101 Archer / Made RPRT / Mayor of Tree Island HERO

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    For a while, almost every General Suggestions thread was saying "Buff Assassin Class", but I think the changes fit in very well. I still enjoy Archer more, but I have started playing Assassin.
     
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  7. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Exactly! I personally feel the changes made to Assassin, were needed, both to make it not a brute force class, and to make it more fair.
     
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  8. DrakeM1

    DrakeM1 101 Archer / Made RPRT / Mayor of Tree Island HERO

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    I completely agree.
     
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  9. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    I guess some people hate the fact that multihit no longer does 3000% damage anymore, hehe





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  10. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I do miss one-shotting level 56 enemies as a level 29 with legendary daggers and multihit, but it's for the best.
     
  11. Cubie

    Cubie VIP+

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    I would like to mention, that Warrior isn't meant to do high damage. Warrior is supposed to be tanky, not do mass amounts of damage. Currently from least to most damage you have:
    Assassin - Mage - Warrior - Archer.
    (Correct me if I'm wrong)
    While it should be:
    Warrior - Mage - Assassin - Archer.

    Warrior is supposed to be weak, damage-wise. (Well Maybe Mage and Warrior should be swapped..) Either way, Assassin shouldn't do less damage than a class that's not supposed to do much damage.
     
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  12. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    It's because Archer can only hit 1 enemy at a time with its basic attack, while Assassin can hit as many as it want. Those numbers aren't "More square = higher number", but the general DPS it can inflict. Against a group of 5 enemies and with no spell use, I can garantee you that the Assassin will get rid of them faster than the Archer will.
     
  13. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Very true, I kind of messed that up with that part of the post xD
    I will edit that tonight after I'm done with everything that I need to do! :)
    ________________________________
    Oh, so that is why it is like that! I actually didn't understand that at first, but thanks for the clarification!
    ________________________________
    Very much so, I honestly hope it stays this way, it's for the better in my opinion.
     
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  14. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity CHAMPION

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    Might be worth noting that the first level 100 was an Assassin, that probably has to mean something!


    Also any class that can effortlessly solo endgame bosses was obviously in need of a nerf. Gavel brought changes and you guys are gonna have to adjust to them.
     
  15. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Exactly! As much as I loved doing that, I personally love the changes made to it! :)
     
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  16. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    CLARIFICATION
    YES
     
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  17. DirtyDoge

    DirtyDoge Master Procastinator HERO

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    N0ice amulet m8
     
  18. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    What do you mean by this?
     
  19. DirtyDoge

    DirtyDoge Master Procastinator HERO

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    I like your amulet, that you showcased in much detail.

    And yes, I do have it.

    I mean, unless it's not the same one I'm thinking of, then I just look stupid
     
  20. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    I didn't show it because of a specific reason, I didn't want to show it for that reason, the reason is a bit of a mystery, but I will tell you, it's not actually all too good of an amulet
     
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