Pvp

So yea, playing pvp is currently totally impossible since many people use totally broken builds that simply ruin the game.
for example the grandmother archers:
they do insane damage but are the same time tanks that doenst fit to archer, they are intended to have the least defense.
now to poison: are you kidding me? poison build mage is unkillable, poison archer shoots you before you get close. if they get poisoned they simply heal themselves, meanwhile they spam icesnakes to poison everyone so they die. And there is no build I know that can evade poison.
Assasin: Assasin is the weakest class of all, surely the defense is bad but intended that way, but the damage! every class deals more damage then assasin.
Assasins vanish isn't also working properly to be used in pvp. Mana runs out before you get close and you cannot use a spell.
And now lvl differences: Where is the fairness? a lvl 90 mage can kill lvl 40 people over and over again, same goes to archer and warrior!

Now what can be changed:
first of: Change nethers pvp to a team vs team game. Balancing the amount of high lvl player and the one of lower ones. And to make the nether fuller, add rewards! These could be blood poitions which could be traded in the rpg world for rewards!

now to the poison problem:
poison must be evadable! I suggest doing it with intelligence, since most builds include intelligence and it makes sence. every percent in intelligence shall lower the poison damage.

Assasin fix:
multihit damage must be increased a lot! the third spell is intended to be the damage spell and not the forth one!
and first spell casted while vanished should always be casted without mana!
vanish shall stop the burning effect too

mage:
lowder the selfheal effect drasticly and add mana regen 1/4 for 10 seconds. that way mage still buffes but becomes weaker to damage over time builds

 

Is anyone else getting the feeling that this is some-what similar to a "buff assassin, nerf mage" suggestion?

 

and nerf poison, yea, I am playing assasin and mage mainly and I know pretty well, that mag eis way too op and assasin too weak!
Here are my stats, simply that you see that I experienced that promblem myself: https://wynncraft.com/stats/player/Witcher

 

I'm an assassin and the only thing that kill me is @TinaChan, speed archers and poison builds.. you're just bad.

 

I have a raw spell damage build and a poison build, we might have had a discussion about that already on the Server, but srysly, there is a massive unbalance

 

No.
It's like saying 'Oh this class has a better build, nerf it and buff my class please'

 

It's already been stated that PvP is unfortunately on the backburner since the integral part of Wynncraft has always been PvE, however, PvP will eventually get fixes soon.

Dude, this is an MMORPG, literally every single MMORPG allows high-level players to dominate lower-leveled players, a good majority of people play MMORPGs to get stronger over time, what would be the point of even playing the game if you wouldn't be much stronger than someone fifty levels before you.

This is not a bad idea, but perhaps you could go into more detail on how the blood potions work exactly? Presenting a concept with no proper context doesn't seem right to me. What would the rewards be? Are they stat boosts? Weapons? Armor? Accessories? Or something else entirely? Leaving the CT with open-ended decisions for your suggestions doesn't work.

Also, the Nether was always meant to be a free-for-all, perhaps if this part of the suggestion was considered, then maybe they could add both a solo and team mode to please both parties.

I agree poison should be fixed, but this just seems like an extremely convoluted and an unnecessarily complicated way of nerfing poison rather than just simply knocking down the raw poison damage a bit and removing the knockback like so many request for it to daily.

Shall I consult Selvut on the often discussed class balance topic for this thread? Because I don't mean to sound condescending and rude, that is not my intent for this thread, but rather:

Because despite the fact that it probably isn't, since you've included it in your suggestion list, I figured that I could recommend some criticizers for class suggestion as with my earlier presentation of consulting Selvut, since, unlike me, he knows his class suggestion topics, of which I do not have that privilege.

Also, your poll seems to be biased towards the "yes" answer without thinking of the fact that maybe I would choose the "no" answer for an entirely different reason besides the one you present, I've never used a broken build, and never will, but what choice do I have according to the poll? Again, I am not saying this with a rude intent, I am just, well, saying.

 

I Play both classes, the one I suggest beeing buffed and the one to be nerfed

 

Don't debuff poison I just got a good poison build to go with my AZ

 

it is simply too op

 

Fine I'll just stick to thunder builds

 

Assassins are too weak you say?
Agility build assassins are actually very powerful and nearly unstoppable

 

good man, Fairplay is always nice!

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tryed to fight a poison build? youll die, tried to fight an ice snake mage? you'll die, tryed to fight an earth archer? you wont even get Close and if you do, youll be knocked away reakly far by his arrowshield so you cannnot get a hit.
tryed some stuff with a friend. Just try it out yourself

 

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Oh, you were serious?

Vanish only costs 3 mana if you have no intelligence. Multihit is 10. You could just vanish and do your spells for 30% of the mana cost, that's broken as fuck

 

"Agility build"

By this I mean builds with 140+ agility points
I've tried encountering one on those assassins,I just can't hit him at all,he's dodging all of my attacks.

 

are you fucking joking me

 

This idea seems to be the product of some high-tier butthurt, so let my explain why you're wrong in every way.

• Firstly, the staff have way more important things to be doing than fixing the nether which about 6 people actually use, like you know... fixing the actual main game, working on quests and so on. This really wouldn't benefit many people since it's such a little used thing.
• By all means, you're not wrong that things are unbalanced in the nether but frankly, tough shit. If everything is perfectly "balanced" then nothing is good nor bad, which means there's so "good" guilds and in turn no reward to actually putting time and effort into make'n a build. It's true that some things, like poison, are extremely 'unbalanced' but you need to remember that this isn't only in the nether, it's the same in the main world, duels and so on
• The idea for team-based PvP will be pointless in most cases, too. Like I said about very few people actually use the nether (And even if this did boost it's popularity, it still wouldn't be significant), so you'll probably get 2v1 teams because of the small amount of players online, be it 3, 5, so on, which will make people pissy if they're put on the team with less players.
• Your idea for assassin is so fucking ridiculous I don't even need to go into too much detail but, like @Endertricity said this will be abused the fuck out of.
• The mage idea, next... "Oh hoo harr let's make mage's heal weaker! This is the most original suggestion anyone's ever made!" ... Shut the fuck up.

Also, your poll is biased. Very biased. Don't do that shit.
Bite me.

 

Agree with poison but idk about other stuff

 

really sad that I have to put Arguments here, but let'S do it.
Concerning your first Argument: Yes nether isn't used much, but now tell me why? because it is unbalanced. sure the nether isn't the main part of the Server, but what can high lvl Players do beside farming to lvl 101?
your seond Argument: nothing I can Counter, good one
third one: read my first Statement
forth one: endertricity actually didnt thought this though! You do not vanish and instantely cast a spell, you first try to get Close to an Opponent and that actually takes often very much time.
fifth:never said that it would be origional and no reason to become rude, just because you maybe use a poison build and fear that It'll be nerfed and loose it's value.

in total: thank you really much for your critism (ignoring "...shut the fuck up."), I hope for a soon Reply.
PS.: yes I am buthurt, but not because I was beaten up by some high lvl People but by People the same lvl like me.

 

The reason the nether isn't used is because Wynn is not made for PvP. It's an RPG server, the nether is pretty much a side project. Nether PvP is also extremely dull, there's no objective, it's just killing, reguardless of if there is/isn't teams. That's why it's hardly used.
Also, there's nothing to *stop* you from vanishing and casting a spell. That's the problem.
For the record I don't use a poison build, I use a thunder-build Knight and a fire build mage, both are as legit as can be, no gimmicks and no bullshit to speak of.