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Life Steal/mana Steal

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  1. Giames

    Giames Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Actually how does exactly works Life Steal/Mana Steal ?
    I remember after an update they become random or i'm wrong ?
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    life steal and mana steal vary based on attack speed. Attack speed dictates the chance of life steal and mana steal activating. The chance increases as attack speed decreases. Super slow weapons have the highest chance, while super fast has the lowest. The idea being that super fast weapons will have more chances to activate the stealing effects while the super slow weapons will have the higher chance to mitigate the fewer chances/instances of being able to activate it. This means that super slow weapons will more or less 50/50 to activate stealing effects while super fast will be 'worse' but the extra attacks compared to lower attack speeds attempts to balance the two out. I can't remember where that was talked about elsewhere, but yes it was changed to a random chance rather than dedicated timer activating the effect like poison.
     
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    Giames Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Oh thx a lot !
    But how this method fit with the time of x\4 seconds ?
    And spells doesn't activate mana/life steal right ?
    I remember the good old days after the gavel release where i was able to refull my HP with an arrow storm xD
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    Yes, spells shouldn't activate stealing. Same with exploding. To answer your first question though, I'm not to sure. I think I read somewhere that chances had been balanced to only activate every 4 seconds. Since super fast has 4.3 attacks/sec I'd assume it has a mathematically balanced chance where every 4/17.2 attacks will activate stealing (4.3*4 sec= 17.2 attacks over 4 seconds. if 1/4 attacks activates stealing then 4/17.2 is the chance?), but again this is not concrete. I am just using logic to answer the question, not facts. A more knowledgeable person on the topic would need to answer that question.
     
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    Giames Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Yep, absolutely this question need an answer.
     
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    The after burn from meteor, the war scream used to to steals
    But SOME ADMIN DECIDED TI TAKE AWAY THE ONE GOOD THING IN MY LIFE
     
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    what i heard it that on average, you gain x amount of mana/health each 4 second each mob you hit
    so i calculated the chances of triggering the life/mana steal
    here is how much you hit each second for every attack speed:
    Super Fast: 4.3
    Very Fast: 3.1
    Fast: 2.5
    Normal: 2.05
    Slow: 1.5
    Very Slow: 0.83
    Super Slow: 0.51
    multiply that by 4 since the steal is /4second
    then you'll get this:
    Super Fast: 17,2
    Very Fast: 12,4
    Fast: 10
    Normal: 8,2
    Slow: 6
    Very Slow: 3,32
    Super Slow: 2,04
    to calculate the chance you need to fill in this forumla: 1/x*100
    with x=hits per 4 seconds
    then you'll get these chances of triggering the life/mana steal
    Super Fast: 5,8%
    Very Fast: 8,1%
    Fast: 10%
    Normal: 12,2%
    Slow: 16,7%
    Very Slow: 30,1%
    Super Slow: 49%
    note that this counts per mob you hit
     
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    This is much plausible and fit the /4 sec question, Thanks !
     
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