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Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. Skidooskei

    Skidooskei King of the Lollipops CHAMPION

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    Same thing with warp? That’s only like 3x instead of 5x ;-;

    Or is -raw cost going to work like in 1.20? Where it goes to just 1 if it’s below 0?

    Ig that also brings up what’s going to happen if you use spells successively, how much extra mana they’ll cost etc
     
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    Buff wind prison Buff wind prison

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    repeat spell costs are gonna go up by 5 (for now)
     
  3. Skidooskei

    Skidooskei King of the Lollipops CHAMPION

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    Well that sucks, that's like equivelent to like 60 tps, really really hope they change that

    Hope it's changed to somewhere around -650 tp cost, it'd be more similar to the current value (also -650 tp cost is pretty cool looking on an item lol)
     
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    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue's Builds CHAMPION

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    Ichikaaa woop woop CHAMPION

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    Looking back at the stream, I'm fairly certain that while meteor no longer cancels itself, you still can only have one meteor falling at a time. Instead, the second meteor will queue behind the first. Anyone from the CT please correct me if I'm wrong, but this means that entropy and pure still have the same advantage as they do in live, it's just not as punishing to cast meteor twice in a row for anyone else
     
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    SuperTheFlugel Battle Monk Enjoyer CHAMPION

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    You used to have to wait before casting another meteor but now that u can spam them they will attack alot faster. So all other wands don't have that wait time anymore so they all got buffed in speed for the next few meteors that fall but pure didnt have a wait time which is what made it good but because of that it will not have that buff other wands had.
     
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  7. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer VIP+ Item Team

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    I think this is wrong but I'm not 100% on it
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    There's good reason for this actually, mana regen being /1s means that you are locked to a very restrictive set of values for mana (1/1s, 2/1s, etc, since rolls round) which would make balancing these changes actually quite a bit harder

    I personally also like that mr/5 and ms/3 can have regen and steal numbers in a similar ballpark, whereas the way the current steal system works doesn't at all justify dropping it to /1s to keep that
     
  8. xSuper_Jx

    xSuper_Jx IM | 119 Mythics Found Item Team CHAMPION

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    super new ea spell item. ??
     
  9. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

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    things i noticed about the teaser using my ultimate highbread observational skills. also some guesses/assumptions i can make:

    1. why is the symbol before hp blurred? this opens up the possibility that it's a -hp item, though i kind of doubt it.

    2. it must have either water or fire defense/weakness, as elemental defenses go in the order of FWATE, and there's a censored line above the E/A defenses, and based on the length of the censorship it's likely water defense.

    3. based on the length of the censor after +19%, i can guess that the item has walk speed

    4. based on the placement of the damage text, i can guess it has air damage (damage text shifted slightly to the right because it's a <70% roll) and earth damage.

    5. probably legendary based on the length of the censor

    not confident enough to make any other guesses/assumptions, but i believe most of what i said above should be accurate

    of course there's also the possibility that the lines of censorship aren't drawn to perfectly cover everything in which case i may guess incorrectly on some of these
     
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    This has probably been addressed alr but with the amount of different arrow storms you can have or whatever, how would Nighthawk be balanced?

    Like for example, I saw one of the sharpshooter abilities was 2x arrow storm speed and 8 more arrows, how would that work on Nighthawk?
     
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  11. xSuper_Jx

    xSuper_Jx IM | 119 Mythics Found Item Team CHAMPION

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    In all honesty we do not know yet - reworking some of the existing major ids is not something we have finalized. But yes it’s a problem to some existing major IDS - hopefully we can change them all by the end of beta, but all require more coding so it is not so easy
     
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  12. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    YES

    FINALLY

    BURN THAT BROKEN META EW BOW MORRRREEEE
     
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  13. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    New set of changes incoming:

    Convergence
    spellCostPct3: -75 -> -45

    Second Wind
    thunderDefense: -300 -> -350
    earthDefense: 0 -> -350
    lifeSteal: -400 -> -475

    Cumulonimbus
    spellDamageBonus: 25 -> 15

    Morrowind
    spellDamageBonusRaw: 125 -> 145

    Boreal-Patterned Crown
    manaRegen: 1 -> 8
     
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    Werveh Lord of the Monkey Well HERO

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    xSuper_Jx IM | 119 Mythics Found Item Team CHAMPION

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    you have spoken ... here is touhoku ea spell item.
     
  16. Ingo

    Ingo [105*/Ma|105/Sh|104/As|103*/Wa] HERO

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    Wastelands (endgame unique leggings) with +40 mana steal and -7 2nd spell cost?
     
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  17. Namakobushi

    Namakobushi A wildcard that plays right into your hand.

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    Rest in peace TFA The Nothing. . . . Yikes, at least with cheap spell costs.
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0qn0mM0DS0Ju0DU0DU0Oe0og0CD-Y11+r1G1P1g00000

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0qn0mM0DS0Ju0DU0DU0Oe0og02YCI-10000JThe Nothing 2.002005709030-30F20M01010P010t0R010t0V011P0b030-30c030-00d030-00e030-00f030-00g030-00k030F2WF2W0l0303Qm3Qm0m020AyAy0n010330t010AA1F01322-Y11+r1G1P1g00000
    Really lives up to its name now. From 12k to 5k meteor average.

    It may actually be better in 2.0 with cheaper spells moving to the ability tree, the gear can focus on damage. Maybe with the Arcanist archetype and getting a ton of mana too, intelligence might not be a problem.
    But it may be hard still, to get those meteors again.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0qn0JD0AB0Ty0050DU0Jg0Od02YCI-10000JThe Nothing 2.002005709030-30F20M01010P010t0R010t0V011P0b030-30c030-00d030-00e030-00f030-00g030-00k030F2WF2W0l0303Qm3Qm0m020AyAy0n010330t010AA1F01322010--d1K1P1g00000
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Unravel
    > Windshear
    > The Crossing
    > Ornate Shadow Cloud
    > Summa
    > Darksteel Ring
    > Clockwork
    > Gold Solar Necklace
    > The Nothing 2.0 []

    Quick thing I made. Almost 12k meteors and great ehp, but -ehr which will be bad with Arcanist. Ignored spell costs and mana sustain, still got 7/3 steal. Summa was a silly choice, but canceled the - regen.

    Maybe not rest in peace The Nothing just yet???

    Now time to see how hurt Orange Lily is.
     
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  18. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer VIP+ Item Team

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    The difference in the nothing's damage as shown here is a quirk of rounding and elemental conversion; this might change in 2.0 with the way they recoded it, and we already have a note to keep an eye on it and rebalance as necessary

    Also to you and everyone else reading this, as much as it's tempting to use 1.20 builds to come to conclusions about 2.0 items, given how much in the game is changing it doesn't actually mean all that much, just keep that in mind
     
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  19. Namakobushi

    Namakobushi A wildcard that plays right into your hand.

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    Orange Lily nerf:

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_07R0L30T-0Jq0TQ0K20Jg0OP0BD0o-Y1424-Y1g00001001fI
    RenZenthio's tank.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_07...14010KK170231a1a1F013110o-Y1424-Y1g00001001fI
    Lost .5k damage on bomb, 1k on storm, but the new archer abilities and buffs may make it seem like less, or nothing at all.
    The worst part is losing 2 on arrow bomb, but I don't know how that will translate to the update. No one saw any mistake with the item x2.

    Similar to what touhoku said above (made this before I saw the post).
    We'll just have to stay calm (if we like the item) and wait and see how it is on release, and after all the patches and balance.

    Although, the damage change here is more immediate and seeable of a result than The Nothing's, and probably more meant to be a nerf if most late game bows aren't touched up. We'll have to wait and see. . . .
     
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  20. birdmade

    birdmade Skilled Adventurer

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    touhoku new ea spell item
     
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