Is The Archer Irrelevant Now?

Ever since the 1.19 update, I feel as though everything the archer once excelled at has been replaced and I’m really thinking about deleting all of my archer characters.

Before the 1.19 update, while he lacked defense and struggled in close quarters, he made up with long range and high dps, as well as being the fastest class of the four.

But now, the the inclusion of the Shaman, everything the archer once was known for have not only been heavily nerfed, but everything he once could do, the other classes did far better. Assassins now have speed 5, meaning movement speed players have the assassin as their go to. the Shaman's range is pretty much equal to that of the archer, and has far better crowd control and dps, and since their attacks have no drop off, even range, what archers had over all other classes at one point no longer matters.

I love all the new additions to the update, but I feel like their unnecessarily nerfed what was already an underpowered class.

 

Archers are still the go to for speed, as their speed 3 is pretty much permanent as compared to Assassins which lasts only a couple seconds and drains your mana. As for the range Archer still dominates Shaman, since Shaman is a bit shotgun-y and is never going to deal more than 33% dmg at long range, which is still much shorter than Archer's, if we should be Lamenting the loss of a class it should be Assassin, poor Assassin got fucked hard.

 

How is archer underpowered or irrelevant????

 

I have to disagree with you on that one. Assassin is able to deal very good amounts of single-target dmg, speed 5 from vanish makes it able to close and create distance. The only thing that got nerfed a bit is the horizontal mobility, with a huge gain on vertigal mobility. Overall, I really, REALLY like the current assassin. Never been this much fun before. Comboing never has been this rewarding.

 

Wait, you need to hit all three of the Shaman beams to deal full damage?

 

Yes, it would be way too overpowered if the damage wasn't split (just think of things like tierstacking or heavy melee).

 

archer is still relevant as fuck, especially with nighthawk concentrating their dps

shaman can't do reliable long range damage

assassin is literally only 5 seconds and drains mana, you could get like 20 straight seconds if you're lucky

ASSASSIN is the class that's irrelevant, it's only good with heavy melee now :(

 

Ever heard of "Roving Assassin"? The perk makes it so that mana no longer drains when you're invisible, making the speed 5 last far longer than 5 seconds. Combine this with the massive dps Assassins are known for and you have a formula for someone that's untouchable by all mobs, players and has literally no counters. I dunno, maybe I just have "old assassin" ptsd from when I played the old wynncraft and Assassins needed to be bought, but I always felt like they were always the most OP class. (I played on an old account.)

 

I kind of disagree and I really enjoy current assassin spell spam. I was able to solo The Eye (no pots) with a spell spam health regen build with Ivory. I think people just have to get used to the new vanish. I really love it’s new vertical mobility and speed 5 which for me makes maneuvering a lot easier.

 

ah, yes, of course, the ONE ASSASSIN WEAPON THAT CAN DO THAT. oh yeah, and it's a mythic! hmm, I wonder why you think that that makes it better? must have immeasurable IQ... mythic > nonmythic.

assassin's USED to be known for DpS, now we just kinda hope for the best

 

(I know this wasn’t directed to me)
You have a point there.
However, I don’t think that means assassin isn’t as strong now. Assassin has great fleeing and survivability and despite the limit of 5 seconds on vanish, the overall change to assassin vanish has made it easier to stay alive.

You are completely correct about Weathered though. It’s literally only one weapon and doesn’t define assassin.

 

Roving assassin is only on one weapon that I know of however, and it's one of the more sought-after mythics. It's not exactly something everyone can get and abuse. Assassin is certainly no pre-Gavel 2000% multihitting terror anymore.

That said, I've found assassin very fun since the update, due to it actually being effective to pull off combos and play strategically, rather than spamming spin attack. until whatever was in front of you was dead. I do wish speed lasted a bit longer than vanish itself, so that you could at least travel a bit better, but it makes sense from a balance perspective why it doesn't. I do more damage than I used to, feel like I'm actually doing more than spamming one attack to do so, and honestly feel like the class is pretty much where it belongs except where is my endgame earth spell dagger.

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Also, to address the original point of the thread, I feel like archer is better as a long range class now because you no longer get better damage by literally running into enemies than shooting them. Like, why was that a thing in the first place? Increase in defensiveness of arrow shield helps deal with ranged mobs, AKA "screw you" enemies, and everything else still seems balanced. Unless you use nighthawk, and then it's... well... yeah.

 

in short, assassin's damage now requires you to use vanish, but vanish is actually fun to use
heavy melee is actually good on assassin

archer is still the best class

 

Archer was never underpowered. It was considered the best class because of its extremely high DPS, escape spell (speed III + ez escape from threats) and huge range. The nerf only changed arrow storm to do 10% damage instead of 15% for each arrow (also the arrow shield change but i think a lot of players liked it). There are still players that after the 1.19 update consider archer the best class overall.

 

The Changelog states that bomb arrows have been reduced from 350 to 250%, and no longer prevents jumping, the arrow shield damage was nerfed, and escape’s blindness now only last 1 second.

 

Bomb Arrow damage was always 250%

 

Oh my bad i actually forgot about those.
But my main point still stands: archer was never considered underpowered.