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Is It Possible?

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  1. Chaosunium

    Chaosunium Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Imagine a bow with 40-100 neutral damage. Is it possible to get a lower minimum damage than 40 using powders? like 30-150 air damage?

    Infused hive bows neutral damage is 360-430 as you know. I used 5 t5 air powders on it and now it is 343-592 while i tested it on wynndata and it says it must be 422-513 air damage. Anyone knows something about this? Is my bow bugged? Or is there something i dont know?
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Hm, I just noticed the same with my water Hive Bow yesterday... Logically this shouldn't be the case since all neutral damage is converted and the powder addition is on top of that. It could be a quirk of rounding, but I don't see how that would cause -13 minimum since presumably a 5 powders couldn't cause that much variation. Both numbers give the same average damage though...

    @dukioooo figured you might want to know
     
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    dukioooo Creator of WynnData HERO

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    Logging in to check what it could be
     
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    dukioooo Creator of WynnData HERO

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    Average damage without powders, with old powder system, with new powder system .... so damage is the same, but it's somehow working differently :/
    Stats on powders didn't change (these: https://www.wynndata.tk/powders/)
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    dukioooo Creator of WynnData HERO

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    This makes no sense ... anyone can obtain 592 doing some math? (math below always mean the max value)

    Like ... powders give 17 air damage ... * 5 = 85

    430 base neutral ... 28% * 5 = 140% * 430 (base neutral) = 602 air
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    don't think so ... if it does then it's a bug
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    Even moving from the 4/5 a5 powders to adding the last one doesn't make any sense .... like, let's ignore neutral...

    with 4/5 a5 powder damage is 325-579
    lets add a a5 powder, +13-17 air damage (ignoring neutral conversion) ... thats 338-596 .... why is it 342-592 in game... HELLO? math? .-.
     
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    13*1.28 = the difference, which is weird. Doesn't seem like coincidence to me.
     
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    dukioooo Creator of WynnData HERO

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    Visual glitch

    Hive bow (+20% air dam) with Anima infused (-20% air dam), no other armor or str/agi skill points ... average damage on dummy never went above 513 or below 422 (values on wynndata for the powder 5*a5 hive bow) so yeah, my guess is visual glitch
     
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    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    ye unfortunately powder conversion and its relevant calculations and visual displays are messed up in the 1.18 update, reports have been made about it but well hope it get fixed soonTM
     
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