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Any Class Help Infused Hive Spear Or Dagger?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by The Fool, Sep 13, 2017.

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  1. The Fool

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    Hello people, I want to use this build: (https://wynndata.tk/s/SuFJ6G) with one of my lv. 100 classes to solo Li - by the way, don't worry about the thunder defense, it can be fixed with powders and some money.

    The problem is: since this build doesn't have many tank aspects and regeneration, I'm finding it hard to chose between using it with Assassin or Warrior.
    What I want to know is which of these two classes has the better survivability overall to help with the builds efficence in Li

    Thank you and if this seems to confuse I can rewrite everything from the beginning
     
  2. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    probably warrior
    its tankier
     
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  3. The Fool

    The Fool Nobody Wants to Know Him HERO

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    Can you explain better? I did not understand what you exactly mean, since this build is already counting on the buff/nerfs and I'm already using the build in the live servers.
     
  4. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    wait nvm, forget it
     
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  5. Spinel

    Spinel Pronounced Spin-nell, not Spine-el VIP+

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    Ehhh
    I would go for the hive dagger for two reasons. Number one, assassin is better for water builds than warrior because assassin is very mana hungry and it does more base damage. With warrior, it's better to be tanky.

    Number two, assassin is much more fun to play than warrior. Im sorry @EnderTheWarrior but it's true Anyway, assassin has a strategy to it while warrior really doesn't, however it's your choice on what you prefer
     
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    SeaOfPoison Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    only melee warrior is boring smh
     
  7. Anárion

    Anárion Screw Maex #Dogovi4Ever CHAMPION

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  8. Johnny Mcgeez

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    Warrior uppercut is a spell multiplier of 3.75
    I think warrior would be more powerful and tanky
     
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  9. Johnny Mcgeez

    Johnny Mcgeez zzzzzzzzzz CHAMPION

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    btw I would use a braker instead of hive spear
    Braker with the solid 17k max uppercut out of nowhere
    Infused Hive with the solid 16k max uppercut out of nowhere
     
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  10. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Dude what
    Melee warrior is like
    The best melee
     
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  11. Glenncrafter

    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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    wtf even is this build ???? (tip: don't use hive weapon besides you want to go rainbow, it's a waste of the %elemental dmg)
     
  12. Hephaestus

    Hephaestus Hypothetical Build Maker | Avos Air Arceus VIP+

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    This tip is inaccurate


    Let's say you have a rainbow powdered Hive weapon. Then, whatever it is, you get a total buff of 20% damage in each element from the Hive weapon. This equates to a total boost of 20% damage.
    Now, let's say you have a Hive weapon powdered in only water, or whatever element. You get a 20% buff of thunder, and the other elements are (pretty much) wasted. This equals a 20% DPS buff.

    However, we must take into account some more things: It's much easier to buff the damage of a singular element than it is for rainbow. Also, using a single element gives you access to a powder special. Full water Hive, for example, is a good substitute for the mythic Nirvana.



    You are wasting the other %elemental damage, but Hive weapons are so good that they're still strong after taking that into account.
     
  13. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Also, the game calculates elemental spell damage BEFORE the powder conversion, so if you were to go, say, a fire assassin, using spin attack would still give you thunder damage, which is then boosted by the 20% damage boost
     
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    I know they are pretty good, but a waste for the master token in my opinion when there are so much possibility's with the great armour. And there are lots of alternatives for the specific elemental dmg weapons.
     
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    Requiem and bonder are also an option, but hey if you want to waste your master hive token to the wand, not my problem, go ahead.
     
  17. Johnny Mcgeez

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    where did you pull that bullshit?
    Lament does basically the same damage as Reqium, Spring vs Hive bow is a personal preference, more mr or more damage per shot
     
  18. The Fool

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    I think you didn't understand. I already have the wand and used to have a very good powdered requiem too, but requiem deals 2000 less average damage so...
     
  19. Glenncrafter

    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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    Build you're using rn (srry didn't know you already had it) ?
     
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