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Incorporeal Undead In Wynn

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  1. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Ok yalls, Ive been kinda working on a theory, and I got to this point where I'm kinda stuck. I need to search all of Wynn for a specific type of Mob. If I find it, it makes my theory a whole lot harder. If I don't, then I need to write a new theory, fun right?

    Anyway, I can't search all of Wynn myself. If only there was a community of Wynncraft players who combined probably have more knowledge about Wynn than I (a single person) do...

    Oh, oh wait...

    So yeah, I'm here today to ask yall to rack your brains to see if you remember seeing any Incorporeal Undead in Wynn.

    For those who don't know what that means, that means Undead without a body. Not like Zombies and Skeletons and Mummies, but like Ghosts and Spectres and Phantoms.

    Now, theres three places I want to EXEMPT from this.

    1) The whole Twain area. That's very obviously filled with our disembodied undead.
    2) Icy Barrows. The "Icy Phantoms" in that I feel like are less undead and more just ice given life
    3) Pit of the Dead in Nemract. That quest I plan on going through again, because it just has some weirdness going on that I need to figure out, I think.




    Note: I meant Wynn Province. So no Gavel or anything like that.

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    Anyway, if ANYONE remembers ANY mobs that fit this description, please do respond with What and Where. It would be very helpful!
     
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  2. funnysillyman

    funnysillyman lil uzi fan GM

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    spooky scary skeleton @ nemract plains
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    I think there's some ghosts at the entrance of the dark forest from olux. If you really want to look for more you should look in the dark or kander forest.
     
  4. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    I should have been more clear.

    I specifically meant Wynn. I know the Dark and Kander Forests in Gavel are chock full of them, I need mobs from Wynn
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    But, don't skeletons have bodies (well, bones?)
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    Oh then I don't know anything besides stuff you already talked about.
     
  6. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    I guess these exist (I don't know if they qualify as "undead" though):
    • Cold Shadow (Ice Canyon)
    • Nature Spirit (Dernel Jungle)
    • Lurking Shade (ToA floor 1)
    • Spirit of Makai (ToA floor 6)
    • Twisted Soul (ToA floor 6)
    • Devouring Wraith (ToA floor 6)
    • Bound Spirit (ToA floor 7)
    • Fragmented Soul (ToA floor 7)
    As I said I don't know if they count as undead, they are, however, all spirits in some way or another.
     
  7. (Meric)

    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Soo... Ghosts? In wynn

    huh
    thats.... actually odd considering now that I think about i don't remember if I've ever saw one in wynn,
    ima go scour the wiki and try and help out
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    EDIT x3 I DIDNT READ YOUR THING IM AN IDIOT
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    The wiki says something about a
    Nature spirit in the dernel jungle - nvm someone already said this
    im not sure if I have ever seen one, but?

    Also I never did chraftmas quest thing
    but is the ghost of chirstmas future or whatever count?
     
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  8. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    I think I see where you're going with this. The Twain family have something to do with incorporeal undead.
    Essentially, the Pit of the Dead is a cavern where the original miners who found the portal were buried. Their spirits remain in there, and anyone who bathes in a pool of water there is accepted by them. One thing I noticed is that they don't seem to be the corruption sort of undead, Merloni says they were insane but still human before they were executed. You may run into contradictory lore linking this to the Twains, as different sources say they were and weren't there when the Nether portal was discovered.

    There are also the enemies from the Mask Macabre quest, although you can explain those by saying the salesman got them in Gavel.
     
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    e! ⁣e HERO

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    The pirate ghosts in the giant skull in Pirate Bay (aren't actually mobs, but still can say they are the spirits of dead pirates) (is Ocean considered part of Wynn?)

    Ghosts in normal and corrupted Decrepit Sewers

    Spirits of the Ancients in Ancient City
     
  10. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    Peculiar ones
    Jk ummmm
    I feel like there’s things in the mask cave
     
  11. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Cold Shadows fit the bill. Nature Spirits I think are more of a "spirits of our ancestors" type thing than undead caused by corruption, but they also fit.

    I'm going to disregard all the ToA stuff, just because ToA doesn't really fit into any lore...
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    There's a ghost of Christmas Future?
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    Close. Yes, it kind of has to due with the Twains. But, as with almost everything Twain related, it loops back to Dernic stuff. As for contradicting lore, I mean, that's my job, aint it?

    And, surprisingly, this is actually for a theory on Eye of the Storm. Weird, right?

    The stuff from Mask Macabre if good, but as you mentioned, Gavel.





    HOLY SH*T you just reminded me there's Haunted Ore and Haunted Minecarts in the Abandoned Mines... Hmmm
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    What do you mean "not actually mobs"? And as for the Ocean being part of Wynn... If I can tie to to Corruption, it works.

    Oh, so there ARE ghosts in the Decrepit Sewers? That's something I need to look at. Those are going to be VERY important...

    And Spirits of the Ancients also work, but I think that once again is the same deal I mentioned with the Spirits of Nature
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    Yeah, right?

    It seems like a really odd subject to talk about, until you think about it
     
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    e! ⁣e HERO

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    I meant Pirate Cove, not Pirate Bay

    By "not actually mobs", I mean, during the quest Beneath the depths, you need to go through the labyrinth in the giant skull and find a specific room, and when you enter it, you get this dialogue:
    Deceased Buccaneer: Halt it there, laddy! The wind has told us that yer looking for treasure map. Ah, ye'll not get it so easily.
    Deceased Buccaneer: Ye see, us spirits are as greedy as our physical selves were. 'ere's no foolin' 'round there. We want yer money, and only then will we open the paths to the map.
    Deceased Buccaneer: One full block of smashed together emeralds will satisfy our needs. Go to the front of this tomb, and flush it down the middle of that raised thing.
     
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  14. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Hmm...
     
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    In the chamber on Skiens Island where you battle General Skien, you’ll find ”Traitor’s Ghost”.
    This could possibly be linked to the Skien lore, as the insane and (possibly) corrupted but still human part fits well into Skien’s situation, both before and after being killed by the traitor.
     
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    ____________birb not borpus Staff Member Discord Moderator QA Item Team

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    a bunch of stuff in ToA
     
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    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Ok. This is something to think about, as Skien's lore is another thing I have been obsessing over to no real conclusion.

    The connection with Incorporeal Undead and Skiens is not what I was meant to be proving, but could be valid...

    More research must be done on this
     
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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer

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    If only the Main storyline was out...
    :(

    (Maybe one day)
     
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    Shanaaro . HERO

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    this is entirely baseless but I always like to imagine the Traitor's Ghost as not actually a ghost but just Skien's paranoia manifesting in an incorporeal entity
    not that that's relevant, just felt like sharing
     
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    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    But if it was just his Paranoia, how can WE see it?

    Or, if his paranoia did take actual form, what magical power caused it to do so?
     
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