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The United States is going through a Supreme Court election in which the winner is leaning toward one of the nominees Brett Kavanaugh. However a women by the name Christine Ford has come forth and claimed that about 30 years ago, Kavanaugh and a couple of his friends "pinned her to a bed and tried to remove her clothes when they were teenagers at a house party in Maryland before she escaped". This claim has put Kavanaugh's campaign in jeopardy and an official court hearing is going to be in place soon.

Imo the whole claim seems suspicious that over the fact that the women is claiming this event happened over 30 years ago and the person involved just so happens to be the winning nominee for the new Supreme Court justice and she also only brings this up just before he is about to win/be inaugurated. I have a faint belief that she was assaulted in her youth but the circumstances and when she decided to make the claim makes it seem like it's a lie. Still want to find out more about the case but at face value the claim seems false, so let me know what you think or if you have more information.

 

The thing is, it does seem weird that she's coming out about it now, but her old friends have back her up, saying she told them years ago, before this guy was even known in politics, so I highly doubt she's been planning on faking this for all this time. Even if she was planning it, how would she know he would be nominated for supreme court in the future?

Also apparently one of the guy's close friends is like a SUPER creepy perv, so that doesn't really help his case either.

 

Not really saying she planned it, more-so she just said it to halt his campaign and prevent him from taking office, maybe due to political alignment?

Do you have any names of the people in question or an article link? Want to read about it more, and if it is true and they show their testimony during the official hearing may be interesting, still have to find more evidence.

 

No I don't have any names sadly

 

There are two important aspects about this situation: 1 The validity of Ford’s claim and 2 The political back-and-forth of SC nominees.

Looking at what I heard so far, her accusations have a shakey foundation. But even if they were true, how would the FBI investigate it? They don’t have a location, no witnesses that remember anything besides the accuser and the accused, and it occurred over 30 years ago. I don’t think it’s right for her to receive death threats and all, but I also don’t think it’s right to punish a person without any concrete evidence.

But this gets to the whole political side of it, and it’s why I don’t have respect for anyone in this situation except for Brett and Ford. Regardless of whether any of this did happen, Democrats are just using her to stall the process for the mid term elections. And Republicans have called them out on that, BUT what they don’t mention is how they did the same thing when Obama was trying to nominate his SC nominee before Trump was elected. If they really want someone to blame, it’s both sides for engaging in this nonsense. They’ve went from treating SC nominees with honor and respect to outright protest and mischaracterizatons.

And I’m not the only one. As Theodore B. Olson, the former United States Solicitor General, puts it:

“But while the nominees from Presidents Bush, Obama and Trump have been outstanding individuals with impeccable credentials, today’s confirmation proceedings are characterized by acrimony, political grandstanding, nasty charges, protests, mischaracterizations and quite possibly defamatory innuendo. Nominees must answer invasive questions about their jobs, speeches, meetings, personal relationships, movie rental history and debts from buying baseball tickets with friends—as well as their views on subjects that may come before the court, which they could not possibly answer without, in Justice Ginsburg’s words, displaying “disdain for the entire judicial process.” We expect them to serve for life on our highest court and render scores of decisions every year on matters of immense importance to all of us. Yet we make them submit to the most destructive, indecent and undisciplined political process that our nation has ever spawned.”

The Supreme Court Nomination Process Has Become a Disgrace - TIME https://apple.news/AFrVMB9ZdR0yW1auTZxysFw

So really, the both sides are to blame here.

 

"Don't use quotes that take up more than 2 lines reeeeeeeeeeeee" - My English teacher

But seriously, it seems that a lot of political positions and elections are just used to make future amendments/laws advantageous for the party that they are representing and not for the person that they are. I'm just going to name Obama's terms because it is recent, the only thing notable from his term in office was establishing the Affordable Care Act and not really doing anything else that I'm aware of and even this TIME article struggles to name anything what he actually did and ironically states that "He wasn’t chosen on the basis of experience, nor for his role as leader of a party or a movement. He had not been a governor or a general or a veteran legislator. He did not become president by the accident of his predecessor’s death in office. Obama was elected purely for himself".

Regardless, the whole accusation still seems shaky and human recollection is probably the most unreliable tool of information to grab from especially if it is from 30+ years ago.

 

Lol, sorry.

I mean he probably did a lot of things, especially with executive orders and all, which just aren't reported as much. But you also got to take into account the GOP taking over the House of Rep. in 2010 and all.

But yeah, I agree with you. I guess we'll just have to see how this plays out.

 

Update: Another woman has come forth:
Kavanaugh nomination in fresh turmoil after second woman alleges sexual misconduct - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A2UuA5XTQTwO6BpM8MXWE5Q

Though her claims are more shakey than Ford’s. Her witnesses even disagree with her.

 

A) I don't think that this is real. If it was real why did she wait 30 years before coming out with it? This just seems like somebody crying wolf without reason. The fact that in the US people can get away with falsely claiming rape with little to no repercussions may or may not have anything to do with it.
B) The fact that this is near his election makes me seriously doubt it
C) There's no proof other than "I said so"

 

"Some say a man shouldn’t pay a price for an act he committed as a teenager. But the woman pays the price for the rest of her life, and so do the people who love her."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/opinion/padma-lakshmi-sexual-assault-rape.html

 

I understand why someone wouldn’t speak up about that until years after.

But the problem with these arguments is that they assume that Brett is guilty, which is something we don't know yet. If there's some evidence that we didn't mention here so far, by all means say it, but from what I've seen so far there isn't any concrete evidence. We know Ford mentioned the assault before Brett's nomination, but there's no one that was at the scene that remembers what happened. Prosecuting Brett is nearly impossible anyway because of the age of the accused, Maryland's statue of limitations, and that Ford doesn't know where it took place: https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/kavanaugh-says-he-wont-let-false-accusations-push-him-out. I don't even know how the FBI could do an investigation for the reasons mentioned before.

What I don't like about this situation is that people think it's right to deny someone due process based on their politics. Or that they are automatically guilty because of their yearbook. Because then it's no longer about justice or if anything really happened; it's just about promoting an agenda, no matter if people are falsely accused. And simply, people shouldn't be punished without having concrete evidence.

Top Democrat cites Kavanaugh's 'outcome-driven' legal philosophy as reason to deny him due process - Fox News https://apple.news/AeA_OS6wJRUyz-ZcuEsWmNg

Why Brett Kavanaugh’s yearbook page matters - Vox https://apple.news/APgTfc7m3QYSBhNsteA0BgQ

 

A third woman has just been announced to come forward in her accusations against Brett. Still waiting on the full details.

Third woman makes sexual misconduct allegations about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AZpsbHiK1SYic1O2nU_PrgA

 

My government class discussed the third witness, and discussing who it could be today. Still don't think hat announcing more witnesses would change anything though. At his point more evidence is needed, not witnesses.

 

Well, we’ll have to see what she brings to the table. There’s a possibility that she her can be verified with evidence.

 

Omg, Vox is being such a hypocrite:
Why Brett Kavanaugh’s yearbook page matters - Voxhttps://apple.news/APgTfc7m3QYSBhNsteA0BgQ
Christine Ford’s high school yearbooks reportedly reference drinking and sex. That’s irrelevant. - Vox https://apple.news/AsZvACWKHSvGoe5BoIFfQLw

 

Yeah, I saw that article already. From past research I take Vox with a grain of salt when it comes to important issues, so wasn't that surprised when I read it.

 

I know Vox is left leaning and all, but they do put out moderate stuff every now and then like automatic voter registration.

 

What’s even richer is that they directly mention Brett’s yearbook.

 

Lmao one of the rape accusers is literally a 4chan troll

 

What do you mean?