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Guild Owners Hate Them! Find Out How To Get To Level 91 With This Simple Trick!

Discussion in 'Guild Discussions' started by Ascended Kitten, Mar 7, 2021.

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  1. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    Ice told me he'd play Minez with me if I did this but I think it might just be a valid point so anyway:

    Not quite the 1 year anniversary of this thread yet, but nonetheless it's become very relevant again as we find ourselves playing xp overkill 2: electric boogaloo!! Due to a binding contract I am sorry to inform you that there'll be no 3 paragraphs of crude insults this time, but that's okay cause we have twice the screenshots for your entertainment.
    Tl;dr due to an influx of multiplicative bonuses and lowered level requirements, xp is about as connected to reality as GME share prices. By grinding in a party at Frozen Fort, using the 300% xp multiplier territories provide along other buffs (raid charm, tomes, both of which are multiplicative as well), you get to relax as comically high xp returns make 2016 guild leaders turn in their graves. Bonus clip of a single mob yielding 1+m xp shared with a party:
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    Really not trying to call out the guild here, can't blame them for taking advantage of something consciously designed that way. Anyway, that's about a billion xp within 10 minutes from a single person which, you might understand is a bit problematic when combined with lowered level requirements.
    It also takes significantly less to stay alive at that grind spot compared to other runners-up, though the actual issue definitely is the multiplicative nature of those boosts and the abundance thereof. Oh and you could also just throw in a mob damage boost, never thought I'd complain about guild perks being too good.

    Anyway, as for a solution, I think this unanimously upovted proposal by @Goden is pretty straightforward:
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    he drew those arrows himself I swear it's not passive-aggressive

    Now as the original changelog states,
    I do hope this answers the question.

    Not really supposed to be a call to arms kinda thread but since staff correspondence has been pretty neat lately a fix/update to that would be much appreciated.
     
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  2. Goden

    Goden Everlasting Excellency HERO

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    i really like arrows a lot

    i really do not like seeing balancing take a dive into the trash
    again
     
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    Zinnig Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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  4. IceResistance

    IceResistance Titans Valor [ANO] Leader CHAMPION

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    Cath thread? :eyes:
     
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    Calluum Cal CHAMPION

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    Now Ice will play MineZ atleast
     
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    bolyai Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    ape mode on as always
     
  7. ivo_bs00

    ivo_bs00 owo what's this VIP+

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    AVO is a BAD guild! They own ALL TERRITORIES in the sky islands! THIS IS UNFAIR FOR ALL OTHER GUILDS!!! From all of their territories they get SO MUCH XP AND TOMES! THEY ACTUALLY GAIN TOMES! What have they done to deserve this? Oh, exist for 2 years? NAH. WE HAVE EXISTED FOR 1 YEAR, we ALSO deserve the sky island territories. AVO CANT EVEN WAR PROPERLY! Why are they ALLOWED to have such large territories? THIS is discrimination against all other guilds. I dont care if salted thinks that AVO is a superior guild. IT IS A GUILD FILLED WITH BIRD FURRIES FOR FUCKS SAKE. To stop AVO from owning all territories in the sky islands, we're going to be RAIDING AVO THIS WEEKEND! On Saturday at 11:30 am EST, OUR ARMY will be heading towards sky islands. Starting at molten reach, we're going to BASH AVO OUT OF EXISTENCE!!! Our new allies <insert guilds here> will also help out with the raid, and randos said they are interested in helping too. I HOPE to see you at the AVO raid on 11:30 am EST
     
  8. oomy

    oomy ho e HERO Builder

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    cannu asd more arrows pls i cnat see if very well sry
    :)
     
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  9. 99loulou999

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    dedicated to those of yall who said "there's no priviledges to owning territories"
     
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  10. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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  11. MeowCatPanda

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    I mean I've talked about this to ERN on several occasions but I can talk about it again.

    XP sharing seems bugged.

    As shown in your screenshot, Mango toes has gotten a whopping 90 million xp/minute whilst grinding guild xp. That being said, he cannot get anything close to this alone. We aren't entirely sure how it works, but from what we understand:
    If a mob gives 10k xp when killed, if 2 people do half the damage of the mob it should give 10k xp to both of them. However, it seems as if 2 people kill that mob now, one person will get 20k xp and one person will get 0xp.

    This means that Magnum toast is getting 90m xp/minute, and the guildmates grinding with him are getting only a couple thousand xp/min, seemingly irrelevant on that bot but they're putting equally as much work into grinding xp. That 90m can be divided by the amount of people grinding to figure out how much xp it's actually giving per person per minute.

    We don't know how it decides whom to give all of the xp to, or when to feed all the xp to one person, but we suspect it has got to do something with the UUID or maybe date joined. No such pattern has been found yet.

    That 18b in one day was not because of guild xp being broken. It's because we have teams of people constantly grinding as we work towards our collective goal. A more fitting nerf might be towards the charms that are multiplicative.
     
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    Carrie Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    owning territory*

    Its the same issue only 205738184x worse because it cant just be taken willynilly
     
  13. IceResistance

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    That still should not be the case. They reduced level reqs on the basis that they “thought” it would be harder to level but clearly high xp is still very achievable but they completely nerfed level reqs so you can level insanely fast.

    they should not have touched level reqs this bad considering this
     
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  14. Plymouth

    Plymouth Why do you read this VIP

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    This is an intended target on AVO which is funny but thank goodness not a pity cost thread god I am sick of these but I must add something...
    Screenshot 2021-03-07 at 20.54.01.png
    This is literally what we're doing using a feature that was added to encourage guilds to grind up in parties and farm areas such as Frozen Fort for Levels, member slots, cosmetic badges, bank (high-rank included), Don't see what the problem is sorry we're beating the current running highest level guild.

    Edit: Yes this might be oudated, but how does a guild grow further in player count and community? More member slots, how do we get them? Levelling up in groups!
     
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  15. Goden

    Goden Everlasting Excellency HERO

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    Yeah, nerf the tomes that give a 70% multiplicative bonus at max and are a random chance to roll (keeping in mind 70 requires 2 max roll tomes).

    NOT the 300% multiplicative bonus that you can just enable on a whim which is over 4 times as powerful.

    Edit here: as stated in the screenshot literally just make it additive, I do not care if AVO's successful or not with what they're doing--if you guys can organize grind parties and have a goal good for you--the point is that 300% multiplicative bonus in ANY part of the game is insanely powerful and additive makes far more sense considering it's still quite the significant increase (note that the 300% would also be multiplied by tome shit anyway likely, meaning it's still crazy probably)
     
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  16. IceResistance

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    The problem isn’t necessarily with AVO or even the xp. It’s the level reqs because Salted absolutely butchered them thinking it would be harder to level which isn’t the case haha. .
     
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  17. Plymouth

    Plymouth Why do you read this VIP

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    You say that like grinding an entire level of 50B is easy, even with 3-4 people in a group grinding on that chart, well then be my guest but don't keep targeting guilds on a server which you barely bother with even with Frozen Fort buffs it'd still not attract you into the scene.
     
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    Toaster He/Him CHAMPION

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  19. IceResistance

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    Yeah, because they invalidated years of effort to make it possible lul
     
  20. Plymouth

    Plymouth Why do you read this VIP

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    Well what about bulb cave before that got addressed lul.
     
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