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Any Class Help Grandma Or Gaia ( Damage )

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by YYGAYMER, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    Plz say
    Better damage wins
     
  2. Stag2001

    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    Gma op
     
  3. creature

    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern

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    grandmother with T6 earths:
    687 - 918 earth damage.
    attack speed: Slow
    687 - 918 x slow attack speed (1.3) --> 893 - 1193 DPS


    Gaia with with T6 earths
    517- 674 earth damage.
    Attack speed: Slow
    517 - 674 x slow attack speed (1.3) --> 672 - 876 DPS

    so for melee, gma wins.

    as far as spells go.
    Gma wins as well.
     
  4. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    Gaia should win for spell damage even though the DPS is lower. Meteor deals around 460% damage while bomb deals 250%. Anyways, Gma wrecks Gaia with melee, but Gaia should win with spell.
     
  5. LarzLapiz

    LarzLapiz Avos Air Pen

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    i think meteor only does 400% (thats what their website says)
     
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  6. kokonut_pi

    kokonut_pi ( ~ ' - ' ) ~ HERO

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    Well with Burning Ground it would be 500%.
     
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    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    Meteor is hard to hit players, because they run away from it.
     
  8. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    ice snake + meteor.
     
  9. Tekenen

    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    charge, escape (assasin sucks anyways)
     
  10. creature

    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern

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    I have some real trouble actually damaging things with burning ground. And the burning ground effect will get canceled if you cast a second meteor. Meaning that for DPS purposes it only does the 400%
    400% for meteor 'cuz of the reasons stated above. + on an archer you can use arrow storm and arrow bomb.

    Meteor:
    (just impact, due to reasoning explained above.)
    672.1 x 4 - 876.2 x 4 --> 2688 - 3505

    Arrow bomb:
    (Just a single arrow bomb, even thought it can bounce around to hit again. I'm not taking that into account here.)
    893 x 2.5 - 1193 x 2.5 --> 2236 - 2983

    arrow storm:
    (I will be calculating arrow storms damage per arrow here.)
    893 x 0.2 - 1193 x 0.2 --> 179 - 239
    A single arrow storm has up to 60 arrows.
    179 x 60 - 239 x 60 = 10740 - 14340

    But you'll probably miss half of them. Although you can keep this stream up continously.


    DO NOT FORGET THAT YOU CAN CHAIN SPELLS IF YOU GOT A BUILD WITH GOOD MANA REGEN.
    AND THAT MAGE'S METEOR CANCELS ITSELF IF YOU CAST A SECOND ONE.
    THIS HUGELY IMPACTS MAGE'S DPS.

    (in the meanwhile archer can infini-spam arrow storm + arrow bomb)
    (and don't any of you dare start with any of that 'ice snake and teleport deal damage as well.' crap. Their damage is low enough to not really care about their damage. (most of the time.))
    p.s: I consider teleport to be the best pve spell out there, due to the 5 seconds of blindness it inflicts. That shit makes basically any mob into a Detlas villager. So I'm not saying that those spells are bad, they're just not damaging spells.

    Plus, 'course don't forget the ids on these items that effect spell damage. (not taking gaia's poison as extra spell damage. But even with Gaia's poison included, gma would win.)
    grandma:
    • Health Regen: -17% to -32%
    • Spell Damage: +2% to +7%
    • Melee Damage: +2% to +7%
    • XP Bonus: +3% to +13%
    • Loot Bonus: +6% to +26%
    • Strength: +3 to +13
    • Speed: -10% to -19%
    • Health Regen: -259 to -481
    • ✤ Earth Defense: +2 to +8
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    • Slots: 3
    • Damage: 130-210
    • ✤ Earth Damage: 335-400
    • Attack Speed: Slow
    • Lv. Min : 97
    • Strength Min: 95
    • Spell Damage: -2% to -5%
    • Melee Damage: +3% to +11%
    • Strength: +5 to +20
    • Thorns: +5% to +20%
    • Poison: +135/3s to +585/3s
    • Spell Damage: -245 to -455
    • Melee Damage: +45 to +195
    These stats show that the spell ids for grandmother are a whole lot better than the spell ids for gaia are, so if I did these calculations with ids, I'd still get gaia as the worst damaging option.
     
  11. MintIceCream57

    MintIceCream57 Mistrise Mystic

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    It's luck based though
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