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Mage/Dark Wizard Current Lunar Li Solo Attempt

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by starx280, Dec 22, 2018.

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  1. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    Hi everyone and happy holidays :D

    Welp back to the title, this is the lunar build I used to get to mechacorruptor, with manablast as a secondary:

    https://wynndata.tk/s/6nqcQ9

    This is basically aa's bpa build from a long time ago with a finesse xD

    Anyway to improve it? Currently I'm thinking of putting w6's on the armour for concentration :)

    (I really want to solo li with lunar plz help!)
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    please dont use lunar spine,
    i'd rather use depressing stick than lunar spine
     
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    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    what's wrong with lunar spine?
    -decent meteors
    -thick melee slaps
    -tons of ele def pierce
    -good mana (as long as you play well)
    -the crossing
    -good heals

    https://wynndata.tk/s/F4sAHD fat 24k quakes, 9.3k meteors, really tanky, but way too sp tight to be practical

    after CIB is released, you can abuse The Crossing
    https://wynndata.tk/s/DbFkxe also fat 24k quakes, but also 10k meteors, this time featuring not stupidly sp tight everything, but a bit less tanky (no def, less ele def, worse heals)
     
  5. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    lunar spine used to be better than nepta,

    then it got slapped across the face with that negative mana and gay melee attack speed


    also mage heal got a huge nerf,
    just use lameme or nepta now, its much more effective
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    @by2011 i mean then again, u probs did fallen factory 100 times so u know what ur saying. i almost killed myself doing it once
     
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  6. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    Ofc Lament is generally more effective, its a mythic 9 levels higher. As for Nepta. No, lol.
    Since water Damage effects heals lunar has better heals than lament.
    The -MR is countered with +MS, which is more often proced with lower attack speeds, thus, the super slow attack speed.
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    you're an absolute buffoon have you ever used lunar spine with a good build? based on what you just posted seems not. ok well let me just give you a real quick educate, lunar spine is fucking good. a wand that offers a sufficient amount of mana no matter the build it's in, reaches average meteors and can even be used with taurus for big fat chains. "oh nonnoo but -ls" youre fucking mage do you know what spells mage has oh looks like one of thems called Heal wonder what that might do. of all the things ive seen posted on these forums what you posted here has been the most ignorant and insulting to the build making culture. try using items before forming an incorrect opinion on them, you fool
     
  8. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    have I ever seen kurre become mad like this
     
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  9. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    this is like the third time ive posted it on the forums
    and ill keep posting it for as long as there are buffoons underestimating lunar
     
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  10. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    good lord,
    please calm down before releasing your inner goku
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    the ms will only trigger if you attack, and you cant do melee, cus -10000 atk speed, then -50 MR, so guess what, when u get mana steal, it's already gone

    so
    no heal, no melee, no meteor, no teleport, nothing is viable with lunar spine

    this is what lunar spine used to be
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    this is lunar spine now
    https://www.wynndata.tk/i/Lunar+Spine
    see the difference?
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    if you can send me footage, soloing Qira with lunar spine, I might change my mind
     
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  11. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    melee attack speed caps at super slow and super fast, so you can do melee you fucking buffoon
    -50 mr that ticks every 4 seconds. so when you hit a mob, you have full mana for up to 4 seconds in which time you can get 3 meteors in with whatever other spells you want to use in between
     
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  12. by2011

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    you see, there's an issue with your logic

    -as madkurre said, -attack speed caps at super slow

    -the proc chance scales with your attack speed, so mana/lifesteal always procs every 4 seconds on average. in fact, the lower the attack speed, the better the item is for hybrid because of powder specials (which always charge in ~5.5 seconds)
    -super fast attack speed chain lightning procs mana/lifesteal less than one time on average
    -super slow attack speed chain lightning procs mana/lifesteal 4.5 times on average

    -with mana regen, you can
    -switch out item to, say, bonder every 5 seconds to avoid the -hpr and -mana regen tick while gaining more mana
    -ignore the tick and just melee after it happens for easy 20/4 mana regen

    basically, lunar spine isn't bad, it just takes brain cells to use

    usually, i'd (between the mr ticks)
    meteor snake/heal meteor snake/heal melee (hold another wand for mr for a second) repeat

    i don't have proof (video) of me doing anything, but i soloed fallen factory ~30 times (while leveling) with https://wynndata.tk/s/sQWqt1, which isn't even a real build
     
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  13. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    honestly i dont wanna argue anymore. i will only be convinced if u show me u can kill qira or LI with it

    i did qira with my nepta combo so if you're really think lunar spine rn is better than nepta, then go right ahead

    i will bet 60 LE that you can't solo qira with Lunar spine, using any MR weapon is not allowed. since i used 1 weapon to solo qira.

    skill pots are allowed
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    these kids are zealots for this lunar staff so i may hit seavale reef
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    you will pay me the LE any time on monday

    same goes with me
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    any twisting of the rules of this bet, (if you accept) will result in you having to restart
     
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  14. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    never said lunar was better than nepta, just said lunar was good.

    can't record nor do i have a lunar build on hand (mage has monster rn) now do i even have 60 raw (don't wanna have to sell mythics) nor do i want to grind seavale nor do i want to lootrun so nty :)

    (i have to go do FF 8 more times to pass tseries)
     
  15. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    brb
    Heck someone asked me to help them do ToL brb *2
    Heck now I need to finish my video thing brb*3
    I'm lagging but now I do it ok brb
     
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  16. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    welp, that crazy madkurre person might be up for it ;)
     
  17. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    extra info in the description

    you dont have to actually pay though just regret this time you were a total buffoon and didnt do any thinking or research before arguing a shit point

    edit: shit the audio is broken i think
     
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    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    Ok make it 9 now
    btw doing this at 500 ping is cancer
    then again I did it at 2k ping once so I mean
     
  19. sulphursmite

    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Ok fine u win. I’m still sticking with my nepta combo

    Just please
    Don’t make this a flame war
     
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  20. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    xD

    Anyway thanks everyone!
     
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