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Warrior/Knight Help Collapse Build Preference Help, Again

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  1. Justice

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    Ok, after taking a short break, I'm back into trying to make a king of all spell Collapse builds if I can and I have weeded down my list of 15 or so builds to now 4. I will present the choices I have picked for my nasty Collapse build.
    The Glass Cannon(Starting to think its not as glassy as I thought): https://wynndata.tk/s/r0vc8k
    19/4 mana steal+regen, worst in spell cost dept. tho: https://wynndata.tk/s/5srgpe
    Good Mana and Health Sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/kdo4gt
    Ok Mana Sustain but Better Health Sustain and dmg: https://wynndata.tk/s/rihvjt

    There's also this build that J_lo777 made that brought Cracklers to my attention so I may mess around with those a bit. The build in it's own right is pretty good in some departments but I think lacks in the health sustain but it is still worth mentioning.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/a7mj5u

    Edit: After some more messing around with Cracklers, I've gotten a few other builds that are in the running.
    High dmg but low mana sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/blpgoz
    Good dmg, health and mana sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/8c6kfb
    Basically the same as the previous build but with slightly more health sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/3ealxy

    Another Edit: Messing around with Ouroboros is giving promising results.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/p3gor7
    https://wynndata.tk/s/revly7
    https://wynndata.tk/s/c1t249
     
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    The list continues, this time it's Spectre and Sparkling Visor.
    Spectre
    Capricorn: https://wynndata.tk/s/hx17wz
    Curador Boots: https://wynndata.tk/s/k9w6z8
    Cracklers: https://wynndata.tk/s/csukgz
    Ouroboros+Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/kry3as
    Ouroboros: https://wynndata.tk/s/t1gqcr
    Ex Nihilo: https://wynndata.tk/s/g4zp9v
    Sparkling Visor
    Capricorn: https://wynndata.tk/s/v5u32p
    Curador Boots: https://wynndata.tk/s/y9at41
    Cracklers: https://wynndata.tk/s/6ten1j
    Ouroboros+Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/h0u56b
    Ouroboros: https://wynndata.tk/s/iuaqmv
    Ex Nihilo: https://wynndata.tk/s/wb103v
    Spectre, overall, seems to be the better helm but Sprakling Visor could be good in other spots potentially over Spectre. I'm probably just gonna use this post as a dumping ground along with the other Collapse builds as I slowly brute force as many combinations.
     
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    Trying out different ring combinations with Intensity. These are the most noteworthy combinations that I found to have potential.
    Prism: https://wynndata.tk/s/mh9wyj
    The Gambler: https://wynndata.tk/s/0lmwep
    Yang: https://wynndata.tk/s/5v13p6
    Also different necklace combinations with Prowess.
    Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/cq1b9u
    Stellar: https://wynndata.tk/s/qe9jbs
    Diamond Fusion Necklace: https://wynndata.tk/s/mwt96o
    And different bracelet combinations with Contrast. I can probably say Atlas is really the only option but Nebulous isn't bad if you want extra dmg.
    Atlas: https://wynndata.tk/s/3e7ovm
    Nebulous: https://wynndata.tk/s/xy2umq

    Different ring combinations if either Prowess or Contrast were chosen but the main ring being used over Intensity would be Prism.
    The Gambler: https://wynndata.tk/s/5372tc
    Yang: https://wynndata.tk/s/r56x2t
    Double Prism: https://wynndata.tk/s/mf3qtn
    Different necklace combinations if you were to pick Intensity but the bracelet being used in each is Atlas.
    Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/k6lwbt
    Stellar: https://wynndata.tk/s/hxjmfs
    Diamond Fusion Necklace: https://wynndata.tk/s/cenu8j
    Diamond Hydro Necklace: https://wynndata.tk/s/89t4un
     
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    I can't be bothered to look through all of these, but what's your favorite Collapse build of all?
    @Justice
     
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    That's what all this post is trying to find out. I'm trying to make the best build with 14/4+ ms+mpr, 1000/4+ ls+hrp, the lowest spell costs, and 20k+ dmg. This is just me trying to find the best overall build but I'm also going to post the ones with highest mana sustain, health sustain, dmg, lowest spell costs, etc. Yeah, there are builds that fulfill that requirement but I want the best possible outcome, if possible. I'm just about to go through some combinations of accessories and test them on armor combinations as well.
     
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    Now to test all the combinations of with Intensity. Note that I've condensed ms and mpr into "mana" just to simplify things a bit. If you want the best combinations I have found, just go to the bottom of this comment.
    Intensity+Prism
    Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/go2py6 13.04k upper 8/4 mana
    Stellar: https://wynndata.tk/s/78k0p9 13.07k upper 9/4 mana
    Diamond Fusion: https://wynndata.tk/s/2m7ejx 11.9k upper 8/4 mana
    Diamond Hydro: https://wynndata.tk/s/t6zd8u 12.2k upper 10/4 mana
    Intensity+The Gambler
    Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/jexz1s 13.04k upper 9/4 mana
    Stellar: https://wynndata.tk/s/uw0c5f 13.07k upper 10/4 mana
    Diamond Fusion: https://wynndata.tk/s/wuaehf 11.9k upper 9/4 mana
    Diamond Hydro: https://wynndata.tk/s/3m9ul6 12.2k upper 11/4 mana
    Intensity+Yang (Overall the most damage)
    Tenuto: https://wynndata.tk/s/01gtmh 13.9k upper 8/4 mana
    Stellar: https://wynndata.tk/s/gw58d1 13.9k upper 9/4 mana
    Diamond Fusion: https://wynndata.tk/s/u51skd 12.8k upper 8/4 mana
    Diamond Hydro: https://wynndata.tk/s/8wxdyi 13.0k upper mana 10/4 mana

    Different combinations for Prowess
    Prowess+Tenuto (lots of extra skill points, low mana sustain)
    The Gambler: https://wynndata.tk/s/w7zm18 11.7k upper 6/4 mana
    Yang: https://wynndata.tk/s/ap9woe 11.7k upper 5/4 mana
    Double Prism: https://wynndata.tk/s/jakbmg 11.7k upper 5/4 mana
    Prowess+Stellar
    The Gambler: https://wynndata.tk/s/lk8ncw 11.7k upper 7/4 mana
    Yang: https://wynndata.tk/s/uw5ixk 12.6k upper 6/4 mana
    Double Prism: https://wynndata.tk/s/u6jl1a 11.7k upper 6/4 mana

    Different Combinations for Contrast
    Atlas (modest amount of extra skill points, overall the most health and mana sustainable)
    The Gambler: https://wynndata.tk/s/vtru4j 10.6k upper 11/4 mana
    Yang: https://wynndata.tk/s/hgkcyw 11.4k upper 10/4 mana
    Double Prism: https://wynndata.tk/s/f2s6xh 10.6k upper 10/4 mana

    So far, the best accessory combinations I can find and these are the best in my opinion.
    Best Combination Overall: https://wynndata.tk/s/uw0c5f
    2nd Best Combination Overall: https://wynndata.tk/s/vtru4j
    Most Damage: https://wynndata.tk/s/gw58d1
    2nd Most Damage: https://wynndata.tk/s/78k0p9
    Most Mana Sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/vtru4j
    2nd Most Mana Sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/uw0c5f
    Most Health Sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/vtru4j
    Most Extra Skill Points: https://wynndata.tk/s/jakbmg (Tenuto could be replaced by Diamond Fusion Necklace for more skill points but at the cost of less damage.)
     
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    Now, for the best Collapse builds I can think up for now that have moderately good uppercuts.
    Highest Damage: https://wynndata.tk/s/zc0jiv
    • 13/4 ms+mr
    • 1155/4 ls
    • 23.2k Uppercut
    • 89 Int.
    • 10880 hp
    Most Health Sustainability: https://wynndata.tk/s/xte7dg
    • 17/4 ms+mr
    • 1336/4 ls
    • 616 hr
    • 17.9k Uppercut
    • 68 Int.
    • 11753 hp
    Most Mana Sustain: https://wynndata.tk/s/79scb8
    • 19/4 ms+mr
    • 900/4 ls
    • 150 hpr
    • 19.7k Uppercut
    • 74 Int.
    • 9080 hp
    Best Spell Costs: https://wynndata.tk/s/jyqdpl
    • 11/4 ms+mr
    • 583/4 ls
    • 260 hpr
    • 19.2k Uppercut
    • 147 Int.
    • 10130 hp
    Best Overall: https://wynndata.tk/s/rfm4xj
    • 14/4 ms+mr
    • 1355/4 ls
    • 150 hpr
    • 21.5k Uppercut
    • 105 Int.
    • 11205 hp
    Best Overall #2: https://wynndata.tk/s/3s65rp
    • 16/4 ms+mr
    • 1355/4 ls
    • 150 hpr
    • 20.9K Uppercut
    • 105 Int.
    • 10605 hp
     
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