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SPOILER BETA (All Classes): 2.0 Class Ability Trees

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  1. lemonalade

    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    Is this a shit post lmao
     
  2. Aftershokke

    Aftershokke The worst balancing I've ever seen

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    i am terrified
     
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    TheFrostB1te Potato Merchant

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    That's beautiful, I completly agree with you
     
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  4. Endistic

    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    please remind me to never go on the forums at 1am again
    basically the more tired i am, the more my iq drops exponentially and the more bad i am at making sense
    tldr ignore that
     
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    Enderae gonna be slightly inactive on the forums VIP

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    this is extremely threatening and i am scared
     
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  6. Endistic

    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    yoyoyo
    shaman might not be as accurate as we think
    [​IMG]
    this is the ability that just got leaked
    if we up the contrast and add some lighting to the back using photos app for window, i got this
    adsascddasdassaxddsadas.jpg
    if you see, you can see a dark line halfway down the middle, indicating this seems to be near the left of the tree, meaning when taking thispicture, salted was playing Acolyte, and ritualist is still in the middle
    this probably means that salted is currently testing acolyte, and we know the CT is releasing and testing classes/maybe archetypes in order from left to right
    so im guessing shaman will be out in 2.0
    what is important is the placement of the tree
    sadasdgsahghadsghkasdghkasd.jpg
    after more contrast changes, this time in pdn software, we have this
    now you can clearly see the tree in the back, if you couldnt before

    my best guess to where this may be on what we know about the shaman tree is right around this part, near Rebound
    dsajhsdajhdsaasdsad.PNG
    however, this has it's own problem: it's still inaccurate
    this is just the closest i found based on the ability tree

    my belief is that some of the shaman tree was moved around between the dev stream and the beta, though we'd have to wait and see

    incase ur wondering, i think the abiliy above Rebound is right behind the Ritualist word, or on the ritualist word
    ritualist leaked ability is probably somewhere around there, as it's the only spot on the shaman tree that's near the edge and has that curve, and very similar connections

    i think thats all, just put more effort into this than my average school essay
    tl;dr shaman tree may be inaccurate after 2.0 drops, and shaman is testing acolyte, so shaman may be dropping in like a few days
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    i was wrong, lemme release my new and improved findings
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    djhdshjasdjhasd.PNG
    i took a look at this page and particular and found some very similar things
    the black box is the estimated frame that the origianl image was taken in
    i pointed out where rebound and the new leaked ritualist ability is
    this was taken from the summoner portion of 2.0 dev stream :)
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    wait, no this isn't right either...
    the highlighted section of the image goes down a bit from a curve into a white ability
    i must do more research!
     
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  7. lemonalade

    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    Yeah upon further inspection that certainly does look like the right place for it. Nice find! It's also possible that the actual node for it isn't visible on screen, so just some food for thought
    Edit: if nodes were shifted around I wouldn't be surprised. Several nodes have gotten shifted on other trees between the dev stream and the release on beta
     
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  8. Endistic

    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    thanks but, um
    it looks like it's the right place
    but it probably isn't
    this has to mean that somewhere, sometime, the tree was moved around
    i looked thru allshowcases of the shaman tree
    and i can't find that exact purple ability with a curve after it

    if we go back to the original, super-high contrast image that looks like this
    sadasdgsahghadsghkasdghkasd.jpg
    you can see that something was selected, right there on the side
    based off the name colro, we know it's a pink ability
    but again, no part of the tree looks like this

    we also know in the dev stream, salted said "we won't show the last page [of shaman's ability tree]" but here's the thing
    it looks like he showed it? but didn't show any of the abilities
    so i'm unsure of that regard

    if you want, you can add the Hymn of Hate to the tree, but i'm unsure

    if we look at tree placement, we know that a bit above it are some potential spots for mask of the lunatic
    dsahdasjhasdjhkasdjkhasd.PNG
    the percentages are my estimation to where Mask of the Lunatic may be
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    now, we have the switching masks, and may be able to predict what other masks they are
    Mask of the Lunatic seems very like an offensive mask

    after a discussion with my dad a few nights ago, i learned that ritualist is oddly similar to WoW's paladin, and DnD's paladin also

    if we use DnD's paladin as a reference for masks, there are 2 possible masks:
    an offensive mask (Lunatic for Wynncraft, Aura of Courage for DnD), and an defensive mask (??? for Wynncraft, Aura of Protection for DnD)

    if we use WoW's paladin as a reference for masks, there are 3 possible masks
    an offensive mask (Lunatic for Wynncraft, Retribution Paladins for WoW), a defensive mask (??? for Wynncraft, Protection Paladins for WoW), and a healing mask (??? for Wynncraft, Holy Paladins for WoW)

    despite Wynncraft's limited 4 spells per class, i think the WoW system is more likely
    why would there only be 2 masks with advanced names of Mask of the Lunatic? it doesn't really make much sense
    though at the same time, you could argue that there are just 2 due to the limited spell system
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    i thimk that's it for now in terms of reverse engineering ritualist
    feel free to share my nonsencial ramblings with your friends, maybe
     
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  9. FreneticEntropy

    FreneticEntropy 2,000 Fahrenheit; 1,000 Celsius

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    It’s very likely that at least two, possibly all three masks are in Ritualist’s first red ability. After all, it’s hard to be versatile by switching between one option and itself.
     
  10. Endistic

    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    update: we do actually know about the dances and hymns!
    if we go back to the image, it is named "Hymn of Hate"
    [​IMG]
    i believe it is very likely that this is not casting spells to do dances or hymns
    no, it's something else entirely
    each ability for ritualist is either it's own dance or hymn
    so, when ritualist is doing it's hymns or dances, it's just casting spells, but in different situations

    e.g in this case,
    oh yeah for context, a hymn is a religious song, and a dance is a dance
    and in ritualist's description, ritualists "make miracles by hymns and dances" and "swaps masks" or smth along those lines
    go figure
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    ManicInsanity?
    more like ManicBigBrain
    this makes sense actually, as there's only one other red ability for ritualist
    this other ability could be unlocking the other, more defensive mask in the DnD-like scenario
    or in the WoW-like scenario, it could be smth related to hymns or dances
     
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  11. lemonalade

    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    Bold of you to assume I have those.

    Personally I've always believed there would be 3 different masks (just cause 3 feels like a right number. Not too few, not too many). First red ability will most likely be about swapping masks because...well that's the entire gimmick with Ritualist.
    As to where that new ability goes...? I still think the very first guess was the most likely case just due to the shape of the tree. I doubt it's on the last page because of the lack of Red nodes in the picture. Every archetype has at least 1 red node on the last page, but from the looks of the image it feels like we would be able to at least see the Red node of the Acolyte or Ritualist archetype. So that's personally why I think the initial guess was correct
     
  12. FreneticEntropy

    FreneticEntropy 2,000 Fahrenheit; 1,000 Celsius

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    Actually, it seems that Mask of the Lunatic is its own ability, based on the ability req.
    However, the Shaman is still very much in development, so it’s very possible that there are three red abilities for Ritualist in the version they’ll be releasing for 2.0. Simultaneously, I can’t really see the dev team locking something so important behind a very high archetype requirement, so it’s also very possible that mask of the lunatic is a unique ability to two other masks available from a red node.
    Salted: “Ritualists create miracles through hymns and dances. Their main gimmick is the Mask system, where they can switch between 3 different states on the fly for different buffs and abilities.”
    Yes, it’s three total masks.
     
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  13. Endistic

    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    oh ty!
     
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    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    That would be why I thought it was 3 masks then lol, I thought I remember hearing somewhere that it was 3 but I wasn't 100% sure so I thought maybe it was just something that felt right to me
     
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    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    FreneticEntropy 2,000 Fahrenheit; 1,000 Celsius

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    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    ok so
    i don't even need to do anything fancy here
    [​IMG]
    final red ability
    on the other side of the atree is most likely twisted tether, as that's where acolyte is, and acolyte's final red ability

    again, we do know that the atree has been changed between the dev stream and now due to the previous screenshot, so i can't find an exact place, but here's a rough estimate
    final graph.PNG
    as always, here's a rough final graph with some of my estimations

    shepherd is in the topright
    ritualists red ability was moved down in the dev stream, seems to be that way still due to the background photo having it's middle-column red ability be in the middle, but slightly lowered

    twisted tether is twisted tether, we know that salted is still either testing or working on acolyte, so
    - if he's working on acolyte, he's almost done, meaning shaman will prolyl release in a week
    - if he's testing acolyte before it ships off, shaman will prolly release in 2-4 days

    and before you scream "but the schedule!! classes release every 2 weeeks?!?!?!??!?!"
    calm down pls, from experience, ik that smth like this for shaman would be VERY difficult to code

    when trying to figure out how ritualist's hymn of hate, i knew id have to recode aura, let alone the entirety of shaman if the rest of ritualist's abilities are that crazy



    ranting about schedules aside, triple totem is probably in the bottom left right there, as i remember salted talking in the dev stream about a "triple totem" ability
     

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  19. lemonalade

    lemonalade probably stupid CHAMPION

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    I would hope it's not any longer cause I'm about to be super busy, I would like to get all the trees updated for beta before I head back. But nonetheless, gamer analysis as always
     
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    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    i can try helping wth the trees if you want
     
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