SPOILER Bak'al's Checkmate

So, Bak'al, Leader of Corruption, and allied(who doesn't represent the entirety of the United Corrupted Nations) with the Dern Beast sent Lari into Dern. The being of Light, was just sent to the Dark Realm by the commander of Corruption. I think y'all can see the implications of this. We already saw in the RoL3 cinematic, when Light Magic and Dark Magic clash it left behind Corruption Netherrack blocks. Now that we shook Lari out of her pacifist nature, she may try to fight her way out of Dern, or try to kill the heart of the Darkness that caused the downfall of Light. In doing so, the War of Realms is about to shift to the Light's side, but that's not exactly a good thing. Just like how the Parasite caused devastation to Gavel and the Light Realm, Lari could inflict the same to Dern. And in doing so, Bak'al has the advantage of both Realms being weakened and Corruption instilled in both realms due to the clashes of pure Darkness and Light. So, maybe when the time is right, he may betray the Dern Beast in order for Corruption to rule over all of the Realms. Maybe that's what he means when he says, "You shall not. Surely your god will smile seeing me leave." in RoL5, since Light will overtake Dern. Idk, I'm subscribed to the "Corruption is neutral" and "Corruption is the bigger evil" camps of Wynn theories at the same time. What do y'all think?

 

That would be a sick plot twist, but the thing is that the Light is no longer weakened after we beat Orphion's Nexus of Light. Orphion literally says that the forests of Gavel will now begin to recover because the Decay has ended.

 

It would still take time to heal, however. While the Parasite was killed, but it will take time for the rest of the dark forces in the Light Realm to disappear, and the Light Realm has been under the control of Darkness for a long time, that it will also need time to gather up its forces. As Orphion says after your battle in NoL: "Its brood are sterile. As the dark burns away, so too will they- And the land will recover." So, while Lari is off going Spanish Inquisition on the residents of Dern, and while the Light Realm is taking it's time to heal, now would be the best time for Bak'al to strike.

 

Since Dern Beast calls Bak'al "peon" I doubt it, but interesting idea.

And well, Corruption is probably Wynncraft's future after all, so why not?

 

I'm fairly certain Bak'al isn't the corrupted leader anyway, we still need to figure out what the ''it'' Garoth saw actually was

 

There is no Corruption Beast, I explained it many times. He is the leader of the corrupted armies in Wynn though.
(but rather than "Corruption Beast" imagine it as "powerful user of the Corruption")

As for "it"... good question. But it is good to say that it is an old quest from when Nether existed (and you could find chained beast there), so take it with a grain of salt

 

In the last part of Orphion's dialog,
(Taken from the wiki)
Orphion: (In High Gavellian) She must be snuffed out. Her influence feeds this senseless war.

He could be talking about the "Empress" of Fruma,
and the fact that she has an ability to use magic that has never been matched...

 

So, what could be happening is that the Creature that the Eye comes from might be of her creation or at least control...

 

Although she literally sends people she don't like to fight to their deaths in wynn, I don't think that the queen of fruma literally controls important forces of dern...

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Also, this can lead to another theory. Orphion says she. This makes it possible that THE ENDER DRAGON is the dern beast.

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(Further supported that the gateway realm found in fantastic voyage, which is highly speculated to be dern, is the end if you press F3)

 

So, stuff points to Gavel benefiting from Light influence. But Wynn is only one realm of many.
What if there are realms where Dern Beast is the good guy who heals forests and Orphion causes Light Decay?

What does Fruma have to do with anything?

 

I'm guessing "heal" means infest it with eyes

 

I want to note that there is no/not much at all corruption in RoL. This is likely because Corruption is created from the battle of Light and Darkness. Orphion probably, as it seems in Ne du Valeos du Ellach, and what would be logical in that situation, "accepted" the parasite to not completely destroy RoL, just slowly weaken it.

 

That's just for aesthetic, you shouldn't draw any comclusions from what the biomes are in any given area.

 

Well, since no one in the empire is allowed to use magic, it is quite logical...

Wtf, why...

Well, it is all just a matter of point of view. Light is good only because we lile its effects, it is not actually "good"

 

Well, we do know that the royalty in Fruma are very strong in magical powers,
And Orphion says "Her influence feeds this senseless war." and as far as we know this person is someone we have yet to encounter,

what if the magic that "she" is using is causing the balance of the way to shift?

 

You do realize why there are eyeballs in the eyeball forest, right?
What do eyeballs have to do with Dern? In fact, it probably has more to do with the Light than anything.
"For every miner in Lutho that lost contact with their inner self, two eyes grow from the trees." - The Forest Has Eyes secret discovery

• Lutho Citizen: You- you chose to come back. I saw your eyes disappear, briefly.
• Lutho Citizen: As you can see... Everyone in this town chose to stay there.
• Lutho Citizen: It started as just one or two.. But over the years more and more people chose to stay.
• Lutho Citizen: Now the shells are kept functioning by some blessing or curse of the obelisk.
• Lutho Citizen: I'm the last one to choose reality.. Although I wonder if it might just be easier to...

The Obelisk protects. It sends the lost miners to another realm, a safe haven. And when the miners never come back from the realm, they lose their eyes, which then grow on the trees.

Fruma's queen is most likely just a human mage or something
She's not a god like Orphion or Dern Beast, representative of primordial influences capable of twisting entire realms, not to mention being realms themselves

 

what about the emperor in the desert?
He had the ability to command the environment for the entire region, just as the Empress has control over Fruma,
it could be possible that they are a human mage, but it would make sense that she has (In one way or another) the ability to cause (Through magic use) the constant fight between Light and Dark.

 

That was a joke

 

Uh, neither of them do?
Hashr didn't cause any of the sandstorms by his own will. It was a curse on the scepter, not himself, and of course the scepter is no longer in his hands. If you refer to Hashr's father, he is long dead.
I don't know where you got the idea that the Fruman Queen can control the environment from. There is little on Fruma in the first place and of the little known there is nothing on the Fruman Queen being able to control the environment. Even if the Fruman Queen (or Hashr, even) had the power to shape the land, that does not mean they are strong as or stronger than primordial forces such as Light and Dark, not even remotely.
How would it make sense that a mage (a human one, especially) would be able to influence the War of the Realms? At Grookwarts, a main hub for the Mages, there is a secret room with experiments on Dernic creatures and substances. All of them are failures. The mages that experimented on the things are scared out of their wits as they were unable to even scratch the Dernic monster, much less control it. They knew for a fact they could never even match the power of the Dernic influence in the Silent Expanse and warned that it had to be sealed, and they most definitely could not face Dern Beast themself.
Nothing much of Wynnic origin could be a considerable threat to Orphion or Dern Beast.

 

From the amnesia you get when you exit Fruma I would guess.

Let's look at it from another perspective. You got War if the Realms. Very well explained and explored topic, where both sides are clearly defined.
Now you would introduce completely new thing no one has ever mentioned in this context, when it already has topics like your own past and tyranny. By introducing WotR to Fruma you would either waste massive potential or add an extra element which would feel out-of-place.