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‌psa: ‌our ‌life/mana ‌steal ‌probabilities ‌are ‌fucked

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  1. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

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    wynncraft is a very flawless game. that's why when we see that the attack speed multipliers for spells are the amounts they are (4.3, 3.1, 2.5, 2.05, 1.5, 0.83, 0.51). we can assume that these values can be used to calculate the probabilities of life/mana steal.

    so that's what we did a couple of years ago, and got these values:
    super fast: 5.8%
    very fast: 8.1%
    fast: 10%
    normal: 12.2%
    slow: 16.6%
    very slow: 30.1%
    super slow: 49%

    and, as said before, wynncraft is EXTREMELY flawless. there's no way anything here could have gone wrong. the very thought is practically unthinkable, it would NEVER happen.

    ...

    [​IMG]

    so, we tested it
    and life/mana steal is probably /3s instead of /4s

    sigh

    basically,
    • we took weapons for each attack speed
    • whacked test dummies 1000 times with each
    • recorded the amount of times mana steal activated
    as it so happens, our results eerily matched calculations for /3s, within a reasonable margin of error

    new values:
    super fast: 7.0%
    very fast: 10.4%
    fast: 13.2%
    normal: 17.4%
    slow: 22.3%
    very slow: 40.0%
    super slow: 66.2%

    super fast: 7.8%
    very fast: 10.7%
    fast: 13.3%
    normal: 16.3%
    slow: 22.2%
    very slow: 40.2%
    super slow: 65.4%


    thank you wynncraft for never failing to surprise us

    credit:
    @hppeng for doing super slow
    @touhoku for mathy help and ls testing
    @H07oh for ls testing
    @other atlas inc people i'm too lazy to tag
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    this would be something quirky and cool without the knowledge that basically every other system in the game is broken as well... now it's just a constantly looming dread
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    also mr is 5s ig if thats worth lumping in here

    pain pain pain whyyyyyyyyy
     
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    Castti Kookie HERO

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    Even with better odds, my ms record is 13 hits without proccing on sslow
     
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    Even tho MR has worse odds than MS, I've gone 14 instances and procc'd mana regen on all 14 of them. Weird...
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    congrats on winning the lottery
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    ETW nirv vs matrojan idol. I was clenching so hard on p4
     
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    chyp5 untrained unprofessional idiot VIP+

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    Lmao gg wynncraft now neither of the timings are correct. Maybe. Or the training dummies were changed just to throw us off. But hey what can you expect.

    Also pog clout from the discord quote. Gotta get that pdt representation
     
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    Every day it becomes a little bit harder to recommend this game

    EDIT: Also was it just common knowledge that mana regen procs every 5 seconds because no one I've ever told it knew about that.
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    No, it was not common knowledge

    you can easily test this yourself and ig eventually a thread will be made with more video evidence but, whatever
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    I always knew that every 5th tick of Regen would include your mr stat but I assumed natural mr was 5/4 not 5/5
     
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    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    More info: poison ticks once per second 3 times, as described, but the time between initial hit and first poison tick is actually closer to 1.25s
     
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    Best way is with Limbo or another -mana regen weapon (that's how I found out originally)
     
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    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    man theres so much "misc weirdness" going on in wynn

    we should, probably just compile them sometime since this is gonna get lost
     
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    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    I guess we can work on a thread next weekend after (I'm assuming) about 3 new discoveries are made lmfao
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    please do make this thread. it'd actually be pretty useful
     
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