World Update the House of Twain

The house of Twain quest feels so severely outdated as a quest and it feels like it is in immediate need of reworking.
As it currently is the quest has VERY high difficulty due to:

• Non-Obvious Quest Line
• Rampant Mobs constantly attacking
• Stress inducing Music

I found myself so frustrated while replaying this quest, not due to difficulty from the boss but pain from how unstraight forward the quest is.
In the end to help me I had to refer to the wiki, which even then is still difficult to follow, especially when being attacked by mobs non-stop.
When I reached the end I was so stressed out and overstimulated from just having to try and do what felt like so much at once I had to take a break.

Ways in which I feel it could be improved:

• Decrease the Mob spam - Make it so that we are not constantly being attacked every 2 seconds.
• Make the questline more obvious - Have it keep track of the specific point you are up to, like other quests that don't always give location but keep track of where you are.
• Remove required gear or make it more obvious - How is a player meant to know they should be using what to them is just a random Set Item.
  

Obviously these ideas are just small plasters for a decade old quest that needs major rework, but in the meantime it could at least make it easier for those newer players who have to encounter it.

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I think this will be updated in a sort of "Rekindled pt. 2" for Wynncraft's midgane post Fruma. The CT is well aware of the low quality of this quest.

 

Forlorn Halls is so good I would cry if they removed it

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I do understand your other points though, ESPECIALLY the mob spam

 

Inb4 Deusphage "This is already on the docket, we're literally planning this already, do you understand how little dev time we have and how much of Wynn we still need to rework? Even content from 1.19 is lagging behind our modern writing" (paraphrased)

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When I played my Archer I straight up skipped Troms and Dernel Jungle because the content was trash and I didn't need the XP. Moved to Gavel full-time.

 

This is already on the docket, we're literally planning this already, do you understand how little dev time we have and how much of Wynn we still need to rework? Even content from 1.19 is lagging behind our modern writing

 

How dare you claim to paraphrase when your message was directly lifted from Deusphage. I am thoroughly disgusted.

 

Well I'm not known for writing essays of any kind so I'm sure it's fine to misuse words

 

Sorry just trying to make a joke off of Deusphage using your exact message, probably should have used tonetags as I'm kinda shit at getting my intent across over text.

 

i think culp was joking too

 

We know its going to be reworked, I think the more interesting question now is *how* it should be reworked. Im sure the CT has their own ideas, but personally I think it (and lost soles, a very similar quest) should be reworked to be sorta like Forbidden Prison/Misadventure. Specifically the sorta "here's an area with a bunch of intractables/mystery trails. Explore and see what you find" kind of thing.

Personally really value these quest just giving you an open area to explore and attempt to find secrets in, so that specific aspect is what I would be interested in being preserved, just more polished and easier to follow trails.

 

To be honest, the Wynn quests are so old that they'd be basically unrecognisable after an update. I'd compare to Gavel pre- and post-rework, but I... do not remember what 1.19 Gavel was like. (Doesn't help that I missed a bunch of the quests, which were then removed entirely.) Like, what does good Lost Soles look like?

I'm sure the CT know what they're doing nowadays and will be able to put together something good, but... it'll be a lot of work. They've been chipping away. Maltic's Well is in a good place. Comedic but has a good narrative to it.

 

I agree that House of Twain feels pretty outdated compared to newer quests. The main issue isn’t really the combat difficulty, but the lack of clarity in the quest progression while mobs constantly pressure the player. Reducing mob spam or adding clearer progression tracking would already make the quest far less frustrating without completely removing its challenge.

 

Main thing I remember about pre 1.19 gavel is quest helmets, lots of them