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Assassin/Ninja Help Is it a skill issue or a build issue?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by mythicalpengu, Mar 3, 2025.

  1. mythicalpengu

    mythicalpengu Travelled Adventurer

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    I am level 103. For some reason I'm quite weak I've seen people that can destroy 1 mill health but for some reason It would take me 20-30 mins I've focused my build on a mana heavy build: Third Eye / Quilted Carapace / Ophiuchus / Riverflow / Bob's Mythic Daggers / Photon / Acid / Double Vision / Royal Stormy Amulet



    Is poison too powerfull, am I bad at the game, or is my build trash. I'm too poor to buy any mythics so no mythics, and NO morph build, thanks :3 also I need a meta build lol. I haven't updated my weapon / bracelet / necklace / rings in a while. I've narrowed the weapon down to three options, "Animosity", "Petulance", and "Viridian. Which one?


    PS: (This is my second thread please don't bully me in the comments :3)
     
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  2. CrypticLucid

    CrypticLucid archangel on top VIP+

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    probably build, maybe skill
    would help if you posted your build though
     
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  3. Sugo

    Sugo Tired Tryhard CHAMPION

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    Build Issue, try using something like animosity heavy melee, build in the guide
     
  4. mythicalpengu

    mythicalpengu Travelled Adventurer

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    the guide?
     
  5. Sugo

    Sugo Tired Tryhard CHAMPION

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    yes you can check out the ultimate build guide here in the forums
     
  6. _Kaczynski_

    _Kaczynski_ Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    The issue is the build, no question. The hp is decent but the damage is nonexistent.
    I just put in random nonsense for the ability tree, but I threw it into wynnbuilder and honestly I'd be surprised if you could kill anything....
    Average Melee DPS of 927 & Negative life steal

    Your first order of business is to get a better dagger. Level 103 with level 75 dagger just isn't going to work.
    For options check out
    wynnbuilder (dot) github (dot) io/items/
    Set the combat level 90 - 103, select rare/legendary, and find something that you could work with.

    You can use wynnbuilder (dot) github (dot) io/builder to try out hypothetical builds.
    On the right you can see health, damage, and all that good stuff.
     
  7. mythicalpengu

    mythicalpengu Travelled Adventurer

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    ok ive narrowed it down to three options "animosity", "petulance", and "viridian". which one?
     
  8. _Kaczynski_

    _Kaczynski_ Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I'd probably go with the Petulance, both for its poison and its mana steal. That said, you will definitely need to do some work to get your health regen into the positives.

    The Animosity reduces mana regen pretty significantly, and being that it's super slow, you're going to need spells.
    The Viridian does more damage than the Petulance, but the health regen penalty is greater, there is no mana steal, and it increases the cost of both dash and spin attack.
     
  9. Mardeknius

    Mardeknius Knight of Blood Item Team HERO

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    It depends on what kind of build you're trying to make! There are a bunch of different types of builds, and in order to understand which weapon you should use, you need to determine what the build is trying to do. There are a handful of different types of builds if you want to deal damage:

    1. Poison. This is probably the weakest option, but also the easiest to use. If you want to make a poison build, then you'll need to have a bunch of different poison items, not just the weapon:

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/build...40840BG170y040-0e1g00001000360z0z0+0+0+0+0-1T
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Slimy Shako
    > Delirium
    > Caterpillar
    > Scorpio
    > Sweet Memories
    > Sweet Memories
    > Prowess
    > Charm of the Magma
    > Forest Aconite [e6e6]

    You'll notice that this has a level 95 weapon, and a bunch of armours that are below level 100 (like Delirium, which is level 87). Just because an item is the highest level doesn't necessarily mean it's the best! Petulance, for instance, is a higher level than Forest Aconite, but because Petulance has -40 Defence, Forest Aconite is the better choice here (plus, it has more poison).

    2. Main Attack. You've probably noticed by now the difference between Main Attacks and Spells. Usually, builds are only good at dealing damage with one of them or the other. Builds that use Main Attack as their main source of damage are easier to use than ones that rely on Spells for their damage. Here are two options for Main Attack Builds:

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/build...0Pt0s1G00121L1g00001007lU0z0z0+0+0+0+0-1Tj7+6
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Centipede
    > Calidade Mail
    > Rodoroc's Guard
    > Nether's Scar
    > Flashfire Knuckle
    > Flashfire Knuckle
    > Span of the Starfield
    > Contrast
    > Limbo [a6a6a6]

    This is Fast Melee: it has a SUPER_FAST attack speed, so you'll have to be clicking constantly, but you deal decent damage.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/build...01s1f11001X001g00001001Z60z0z0+0+0+0+0-1Tj7+6
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Darksteel Full Helm
    > Taurus
    > Earth Breaker
    > Dawnbreak
    > Lost Seconds
    > Lost Seconds
    > Death Grasp
    > Dogun Sautoir
    > Animosity [e6e6e6]

    This is Heavy Melee: it has a SUPER_SLOW attack speed, but deals massive damage using the ability QUAKE, which you can use by Shift + Left Clicking once the powder bar on the item is charged up.
    (This one probably deals more damage, between the two.)

    I'll get back to you later with a Spell build.
     
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    Mardeknius Knight of Blood Item Team HERO

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  11. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world HERO

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    I like how even your fairly standard, vanilla builds still feel super sketch because of your signature when they're actually perfectly normal.