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This is absolutely not fair

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Tzelofachad, Oct 13, 2024 at 12:42 PM.

  1. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    The fifth bounty spirit is IN THE SILENT EXPANSE
    WE WERE PROMISED THAT THE FESTIVALS WOULDNT BE LEVEL LOCKED!
    if you say "oh just get to level 100 it doesnt take so long" I WANT TO ENJOY THE GAME
    HOW IS THIS FAIR TO LOW LEVEL PLAYERS???
     
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    Elytry Fractal VIP

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    it isn't ;) (but then again, it's not fair for everyone who's busy during festival season to miss out on crates)
     
  3. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    but everyone knows that its an event. this is just how all events work. Whereas, if you are available to play during the event, which is not tied in to any other gameplay elements, why should you be punished?
     
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    Elytry Fractal VIP

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    just pointing out that festivals in general Are Not Fair
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    :=(
     
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    It's not, and personally I think that's fine.
     
  7. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    literally how

    the festivals are meant to be disconnected from the rest of the game. If i am level 99 and dont want to do AJB yet, i just have to wait an entire year to complete the festival?

    it seems like the developers lack empathy for anyone trying to slow down and enjoy the game, instead of rushing through it.
     
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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I mean it takes awhile to casually level up to level 75, so if we went by your logic it no area above that range could be used.
     
  9. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    that is not what I am saying. Any location in the game, if you are skilled enough, can be ran to at level 1. Ahsmord% speedrun exists.
    the only exception is the Silent Expanse. Im fine with spirits being in Ahmsord, because it IS NOT QUESTLOCKED
     
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    You say that, yet they all have you exploring the game's map. It is completely unfair if a level 20 wants to do the full scavenger hunt and a location is in a high level area, regardless of if it is questlocked or not.
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    A first time player is not skilled enough to do that.
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    Which is why we don't spend years and countless hours of passion and care making quests
    sarcasm
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    you dont know that. At level 40 i had my first festival of the spirits, and I got almost every one regardless of how high level they were. In addition, one of the Scavenger Hunt locations was in a questlocked cave and we were promised it would not happen again!
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    i am obviously talking about the developers of the festival
     
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    cool, doesn't change what I said at all. Just because you were able to do it doesn't mean that everybody will be able to.
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    Same people who make quests. Lex is the main person who does festivals, and she was one of the main contributors to The Breaking Point
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    you should at least give us the chance? since when does wynncraft built towards the lowest common denominator in skill.
    there are lots of things that not everyone can do but that we are given the chance to. I say again, WHY put a spirit in the silent expanse. It is easier to just allow sufficiently skilled players to get it!
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    lex has literally said that they dont want them to be questlocked
    @Lex! can you shed light on this decision?
     
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    Because after a while you start to run out of challenging and/or unique locations where you can put caches for scavenger hunts, and cutting off a major part of the map just becomes unfeasible when it's hard to scrape together enough places even with it available. Sometimes we simply do not have time to find better locations.
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    Two years ago. We've gone through seven scavenger hunts since then.
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    with all due respect, that sounds like a you problem. Changing one of the rules of how you design it to help the players, because "you cant find anything better and it takes too long" is selfish imo
     
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    I think it is equally selfish to expect us to do more work. It isn't easy getting a festival ready, and it's often a big time crunch and a lot of stress. This post is just extremely ignorant to that fact.
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    just dont make a cache for that. Im sure most would rather have one less cache in a festival full of content then lose out because they are trying to savor the game. I do really appreciate all the work yall put into the festivals, but it seems like the best option would be to just delete the cache or lower the requirements for the final reward, and make it entirely optional
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    sorry, i mean spirit, not cache. I was thinking of heroes
     
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    Think of the fact that every scavenger hunt has, let's say, 20 locations. It's far more than this in actuality, but I'm not going to bother finding the average right now. 7 scavenger hunts of 20 locations is 140 unique places we have to find in the map, some of them challenging, and then add on the fact that for each festival the clues for them are different.
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    just have less. if you had 5 bounties per week instead of 6, I dont think anyone would be as upset. If it is too hard for the CT, then the CT should just lessen the load. I dont want yall to be stressed and overworked!
     
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    1) Then what's the issue with not getting the cache if you don't have access to it, if you're content with those rewards just not existing at all.
    2) Eventually it'd be more and more missing locations if we don't allow SE (or eventually Fruma, which will almost definitely also be questlocked), not just a single missing location. The map is finite.