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I Can't Sleep I'm This Close To Taking Out My Repression On My Partner(s) Someone Please Help Me God

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by ThePurpleEmerald, Jan 19, 2024.

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  1. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    Ok so Soul Points are cool and all and everyone wants them gone right

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    You see those five percentages? Cool stuff very cool (Wish new people knew to hover over the item but whatever that's not the point of this post)

    Anyways that's cool and all

    So I decided to view all 15 states of soul point depletion and record my findings on the 5 percentages

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    Very cool

    Very cool stuff

    Very consistent, constant +10%s and +4%s very nice
    10%,20%,30% and the 60%,64%,68% and so on very cool very clean

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    Since all the percentages have a fixed increase someone recreating the soul point system would be able to just mathematically generate the numbers rather than manually type all fifteen variants which is very nice



    Now

    That being said



    Someone do me a favor

    find whoever is responsible for setting the numbers

    open their door

    drag them all the way here

    and tell me







    What in the goddamn holy ungodly mother-Azathothian HELL

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    IS THE MEANING OF THIS
     
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  2. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    :saltroll:
     
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  3. Sockmower

    Sockmower Be excellent to each other CMD CHAMPION

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    Hi, Purple Emerald. Thank you for your post! We here at Wynncraft know how much mathematical sequences please our players. To this end, these soul point steps actually do follow a defined sequence. This very simple sequence is:

    where x is how many soul points the player has, and f(x) is the drop chance.
    upload_2024-1-20_1-0-12.png
    Python proof:
    >>> y = lambda x: (3324564480 // (2**(x*6))) % 32
    >>> [y(i) for i in range(1, 15)]
    [16, 13, 10, 6, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0]

    Hope this helped!

    Please feel free to reach out for further information!
    - Sock
     
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  4. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    Ummmm I think you forgot to carry the 2
     
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  5. NerdyGamer2012

    NerdyGamer2012 Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    That doesn't look very simple
     
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  6. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    I actually can't tell if this is satire or not
    I'm sure the formula is sound but I legit don't believe that soul points are this complexly calculated
     
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  7. shtnck eyh ckhhe

    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    Do you really think they'd use bitwise and? Even if it were rewritten as modulo 32, that'd be pretty silly, wouldn't it?
     
  8. Krooza

    Krooza Professional dumbass HERO

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    You sound like MumboJumbo
    "See this [extremely complicated thing]? It's really quite simple"
     
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  9. Gexe

    Gexe Travelled Adventurer

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    hello nice post
     
  10. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    this image made by salted sums up the entire thing:
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  11. TheLMiffy1111

    TheLMiffy1111 Previous Leader Of A Revived Wynn Community CHAMPION

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    it's clearly max(0, floor(10/3 (6-x)))%

    also did you check the 0 soul point state or does it not exist
     
  12. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    I just had a mildly humorous thought reading this

    Has anyone just tried... asking the guy?

    I mean like, think about it
    How do we know all this mystery regarding class builder stuff isn't Salted purposely "concealing his inner workings" and simply just random Wynncraft class builders assuming that the devs won't explain the numbers in detail should they talk to them because they're like "not allowed to" or smth

    It would actually be really funny if Salted just straight up explained it in detail the very moment someone tries



    I'm sure he'll be more than happy to elaborate if we just ask nicely (/j(probably(i'll take my chances)))
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    There isn't one
     
  13. Krooza

    Krooza Professional dumbass HERO

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    I don't think it's that easy to get in a conversation with salted
    You can't dm him on discord and if you DM him on the forums he will have too many messages to reply to them all - I've tried
     
  14. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    in this case it's just hard coded values and 10 was probably selected because it's "prettier" than 9 or it's just an oversight that didn't end up mattering. y'all gotta remember formulas are tools just like any other in game development, and formulas are more useful for large systems, which isn't the case with the SP system. creating a formula for it isn't much faster than writing stuff directly, and it's less convenient.
     
  15. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    Reading this now I'm actually afraid that my original post came off as genuine

    My OCD makes me mad at the random inexplicable break in the pattern but it's less of a "ffs the devs need to fix this ASAP" and more like "omigerd literally unplayable (/s)", I expect that nobody's going to bother to touch a feature that's already one foot into Death's Realm anyway

    Speaking of which I kinda already figured that the numbers were probably hardcoded, otherwise this wouldn't have happened in the first place
    I gotta be honest I'm not sure why someone would make a formula for a completely in-expandable system, at that point it's not even the funny "programmers spend ten times longer to automate a small task" joke it's just an actual waste of time even in the long run
     
  16. TheLMiffy1111

    TheLMiffy1111 Previous Leader Of A Revived Wynn Community CHAMPION

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    hmm when did they remove the 0 soul point state

    anyways i think 0 3 6 10 is perfectly reasonable, happens when people want to divide 10 into 3
     
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