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Is Morph set still meta?

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  1. FluorescentFlame

    FluorescentFlame Paladin's Hammer's strongest soldier VIP

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    I haven't legitimately play Wynncraft since 2021, But I've quickly acclimated to the new UI and stuff. But Has the weapon/Armor meta changed at all?
    If it's important to mention, I'm going for the Paladin archetype.
     
  2. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    morph is still good, but not the best, as it is supposed to be
     
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    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    Not at all
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    well morph was meant to be an easy built that is good in that it is playable and you will not die, but it is not the best at all, because it would discourage real classbuilding and crafting

    I think its doing a good job of what it does
     
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    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    It's a good build to use for pretty much any content in the game as it can solo anything, but as far as I know it is generally regarded as the worst "usable" build for endgame. The issue isn't that it's bad, it's a good setup, it's just that there are way better ones that you can use if one actually decides to actively get them.

    It's a convenient build to just grab and use as a temp when you're in the process of trying to gather the pieces of a better one.
     
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    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    my point exactly
     
  7. point_line

    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    Morph isn’t way worse than real endgame builds though, the difference is barely noticeable if comparing a morph build to another endgame well rounded build.
     
  8. nomythrilskin?

    nomythrilskin? jungle fetishes broke my kneecaps

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    Ehh, the difference is quite noticeable. See below:
    Non-morph rainbow build:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...20K00x40OH0tf0o0o140o0o1g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-0
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Morph-Stardust
    > Libra
    > Vaward
    > Epilogue
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Intensity
    > Succession
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Cracked Oak Wand []

    Morph:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...70c70c40c90tf11111111111g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-0
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Morph-Stardust
    > Morph-Steel
    > Morph-Iron
    > Morph-Gold
    > Morph-Emerald
    > Morph-Emerald
    > Morph-Amethyst
    > Morph-Ruby
    > Cracked Oak Wand []

    Non-morph has:
    about 400 more hpr
    12% more ws
    10 extra skill points
    16 more mr (but with slightly pricier spells)
    about 2.5x the base meteor damage
    Non-morph does lose 3k ehp not including the extra skillpoints and the xp bonus and loot bonus, but everything else is noticeable
    This is further exacerbated when using mythics with a high sp requirement that morph can't reach
     
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    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    try it on a mythic then... you are using a weapon which heavily prioritizes raw spell, which the first build prioritizes, while in morph there's only 1 raw spell item
     
  10. 100klemonreimu

    100klemonreimu Poison Warrior Supermacy

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    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...20K00x40OH0CD19180h11111g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-0
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Morph-Stardust
    > Libra
    > Vaward
    > Boots of Blue Stone
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Intensity
    > Succession
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > The Nothing []

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...70c70c40c90CD1L1L0e11111g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-0
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Morph-Stardust
    > Morph-Steel
    > Morph-Iron
    > Morph-Gold
    > Morph-Emerald
    > Morph-Emerald
    > Morph-Amethyst
    > Morph-Ruby
    > The Nothing []

    When using The Nothing, a wand that works terribly with raw spell damage (due to it already having high raw spell damage and half of the hits not dealing damage) and is known for its synergy with full morph, they have similar power (I changed the boots for better comparison)(at similar ehp, morph loses in damage but has slightly higher walk speed and spell cost reduction).

    For not using full morph you have more freedom on adjusting the build.
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    Pure and Lament heavily prioritizes raw spell
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    Bad news, the diversity of meta warrior builds is nonexistent, the only meta build is charge spam fallen monk with idol or hero(+Gale's sight).
    I recommend just play what you like (as a poison warrior player)
     
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    nomythrilskin? jungle fetishes broke my kneecaps

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    They changed the nothing a while ago btw
    It no longer has a crap ton of spell%, but now is a super consistent weapon with +425 raw fire,air and thunder spell damage- hence, raw spell is actually quite important due to the damage not really being anything special anymore, and since spell% is useless for it.

    Personally i'd say the greatest advantages of morph are the 100% xp bonus and 120% loot bonus, and the fact that it only costs like 1le at most for the full set (while something like libra can cost upwards of 3 or 4 le just by itself.)
     
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    Morph has str/Dex which multiplies that raw spell
    Right, that’s why I would say morph is better on higher base classes
     
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    nomythrilskin? jungle fetishes broke my kneecaps

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    Strength doesn't affect spell damage iirc
    Morph doesn't give very good spell or melee damage though, and non-morph builds can be made significantly more specialized which is stronger in most cases (see 300k ehp warrior and 300k dps epoch.)
    Besides, morph sometimes requires tomes to wield certain weapons (for example, it's 5 points short from being able to use Fatal) and misses out on major ids, such as Entropy
     
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    Rythew There is no war inside the Fruman Walls

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    nomythrilskin? jungle fetishes broke my kneecaps

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    oh there's another morph skeleton? that's funny lol
    There's one in Ozoth's stomach as well
    I guess they added them since it's the most recognizable armor set
     
  16. 100klemonreimu

    100klemonreimu Poison Warrior Supermacy

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    Bro is still using the damage calculation in pre-2.0 shake my head my head
     
  17. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    Yeah they removed that quest so they had to have another
     
  18. FluorescentFlame

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    Well If I'm taking everything y'all have said into consideration. Are there any better armors for XP (currently lvl 51)
     
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