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I dont want to get to political but

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by meef, Oct 17, 2022.

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  1. meef

    meef Well-Known Adventurer

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    Tier stack needs a nerf
    half of the people u see in tna are tstack archers
    fallen is just tstack alka

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...Q0Z-s1T0Z1g01000361000361000360zz++++-zt6VVDV (ty for 2.0 mythic builds collection)

    this is a common alka build that gets 73k dps with out even using any of its ability's and could easily do 300k dps with rage and corrupted
    thats like most li bosses in a few seconds
    its a boring way to play the game and shouldnt be as strong as it is for a updoot called spell bound this is just ridiculous
    I know many people use these types of builds but they are to strong considering some can be made with very cheap items i know the one i linked above was mythic but this is a cheap as hell build that many people use
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...0Jf0BI0OP01w001I001m1R1g00000zz++++--BNRE9sP7

    this needs to stop i have nothing against heavy melee as those items lower attack speed but up damage
    tstack ups attack speed and damage this just isnt good balancing tbh

    thanks for reading
    the meef has spoken
     
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    ThedumbOX I swear I’m straight HERO

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    Can you give an example of tierstack archers thanks
     
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    CrypticLucid archangel on top VIP+

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    Nitrogen7 Yee CHAMPION

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    I still cant see whats the problem. Theres a playstyle thats cheap and strong that you dont wanna use so anybody else shouldnt use it too? Or are u just complaining since you cant make own builds?
    Im not playing Wynn for long but in my time there were multiple playstyles "Meta" in Wynn and thats good. Since every player likes a different playstyle everybody gets his turn sooner or later. Or do u think the item/balance-team is useless and just sleeping until Salted wakes them up to do their work?
     
  5. point_line

    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    I think they should just nerf all damage overall because now you can melt LI bosses in a few seconds with a good enough build
     
  6. Gone2Dream

    Gone2Dream Luto Aquarum enjoyer HERO

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    Call me saltier then an ocean but I don't understand why TStack is allowed to do this all the while nerfing poison to the ground because apparently one weapon doing 50K dps was problematic.
     
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  7. Beanie Boi

    Beanie Boi Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    imo i think tstakc is fine rn, sure for some classes it is in a rlly bad spot (ie archer bc well ill explin below but archer moment and mage bc nothing on atree helps tstack mage rlly)
    people are using meta builds no way??? also a bit overexaggrated but whateva(u not wrong a lot of plp r using tstack archer bc archr is brokey)
    and fallen is not just tstack alka, theres def a shit ton of more stuff to build(ie slow hybrud shit for massacre abuse, fallen bonk(v popular rn), ok mabye there arent that many more but im not a builder so idk)


    and for the builds u sent sure 70k unboosted dps is kidna crazy, but at the same time u gotta acknoledge the other parts of the build bruh(spells do no dmg, knuckle bones -ls and ms, no ws or mobility, not much healing, no powder specials, and mythic moment)

    and for the second build, archer is just not balanced and kidna brokey rn(iirc i have not played new hotfixes), not rlly a tstack issue also
    whats wrong wit having a good and cheap build for plp to use?
     
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    one_ood c lown VIP

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    not to be political but the us 2016 presidential election
     
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  9. EpsilonDown

    EpsilonDown Vibing to TNA theme HERO

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    Tstack archers became common cuz archer ability tree kinda sucks rn. Epoch tstack boltslinger, heavy melee sharpshooter are dominating.
     
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  10. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper i makea da builds CHAMPION

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    skull
     
  11. TheNelston

    TheNelston only ironically afk in the head HERO

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    shame the trip shots archer build kinda got gg'd by provoke changes
     
  12. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper i makea da builds CHAMPION

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    I think tierstack archer is fairly balanced. Everyone is riding on the Boltslinger Tierstack train with Anthracite Ballista, Plague, or Epoch but if we're all honest with ourselves: nobody using triple or double shots is realistically upkeeping high Focus. THIS IS IGNORING THE HUGELY INFLATED BASE DMG OF ARCHER. I don't see why you aren't complaining about spell sharpshooter because it's in the exact same boat. This is an Archer problem not a playstyle problem.
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    IMO its other melee playstyles that require a buff.
     
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    ghoti0315 buff assassin CHAMPION

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    More like an archer/warrior issue
    Tier stack on mage sucks balls on the other hand because literally nothing in its tree helps melee
     
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  14. Monkey_Suit

    Monkey_Suit Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Nerf archer!!!
     
  15. AlanGreyson

    AlanGreyson WynnArtist VIP

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    Tstack indeed really OP in my opinion. However, some people like me just doesn't like Tstack cuz of the difference in playstyle.
    Yeah Ik there are a lot of people who use Tstack but I don't think Tstack need a huge nerf. Maybe a bit or so
     
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    Can someone explain what tstack is
     
  17. Monkey_Suit

    Monkey_Suit Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    It's a build type where you increase the attack speed of a Super Slow Attack Speed weapon with positive attack speed modifiers on your armour pieces to exponentially increase the weapons melee DPS.
     
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    Ok so I saw how this build boosted attack speed by 6 tiers. In numbers, how much does that increase the overal melee damage?
     
  19. Monkey_Suit

    Monkey_Suit Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I can't give you an exact number (since there are so many factors to consider like IDs, builds, SP etc), but from what I have seen in the new update, tierstack builds usually hit around 40-50k DPS compared to maybe 10-20k DPS (rough estimate) without tierstacking.

    So in other words, tierstack outputs a LOT of damage.
     
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    Do you know how that translates into spell damage?
     
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