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Status Indication on mobs

Discussion in 'Questions' started by runsoccer, Oct 11, 2022.

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  1. runsoccer

    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    The other day I was refighting Qira for the millionth time because I was bored and wanted a non raid challenge after tiring myself out with orphion in NoL. I'm using a build with riftwalker's winded effect and noticed that the "status" effect wouldn't trigger on her but it would the spider minions within the room. (well it kinda did but that only happened when one of the spiders died with winded and even still only gave her 1 winded which vanished quickly). Since doing other content since then I've noticed a couple other mobs have that same effect of being immune to winded like virus doctor in LI but other "mini" bosses like Gale gets afflicted. Even other big bosses like orphion and greg aren't immune.

    Is there any specific indication for when a mob is immune to effects like these or it just dumb luck to know if it is gonna work or not?
     
  2. lemonalade

    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    Hmm...I'm not aware of any mobs being immune to Winded. After all, that would completely ruin the whole point of Riftwalker. How are you going about applying the Winded to Qira?
     
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    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    Just main attack in this case. Applies just fine to the spiders but qira seems indifferent to it.

    Though now that I think on it may have an hypothesis... Qira, Virus Doctor, and Robob are highly defensive against elements and the wand im using "The Nothing" does lackluster melee damage. You reckon because the main damage is so bad and is getting cancelled by their high ele def that the melee hit doesn't proc causing the winded effect from melee to not apply? My other source of damage LightWeaver's orbs do enough damage to break through the defense but main attack damage is far lower. Could atleast explain how she got it from the spiders but not my attack itself...
     
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    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    Hmm...I'll try doing a test later today to see if I experience the same issue. Is it any specific phase or can you not tell?
     
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    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    all seemed the same to me. I noticed it initially on the first phase because I noticed my damage was subpar strangely so I was looking for that winded indicator specifically and didn't see one.
     
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    one_ood c lown VIP

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    i would assume it has something to do with cci. do you have the atree upgrade that makes your winded apply a damage debuff to the mobs?
     
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    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    point_line Well-Known Adventurer

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    If you deal no damage with main attacks, the winded isn’t applied. Qira’s high eledefs are probably nullifiying your attacks.
     
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    Derpy894 I'm Derpy CHAMPION

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    Yep, winded doesn't apply to tourutos either!
     
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  10. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    Yup, Qira has 300 rainbow defs and this build has purely elemental melee damage (with an average of 27 melee dmg)

    So yeah, the nothing is getting walled by Qira. Man, this whole 0 damage melees don't count is very annoying. Guess I'll just have to build arcanist

    EDIT:
    Just checked and yup, virus doctor has TFA defs too (You also won't be able to winded last Matrojan idol phase, Dr. Legendary phase, and every robob phase)
     

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    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    Explains a lot why Virus doctor and Robob were a slog to get through when I was going through LI. Funny how certain features come around to hinder others. Learn new stuff about your common features every day
     
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